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    No intent to sound as if I'm on a rant, as that wasn't my intent. Perhaps I would rather convey to not be a worry wart. as for sex, not with these women around here. Maybe up in Connecticut you still have women. These women down here are what we might call "walmart customers", in the most delicate terms I can muster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    Quite true. I suspect there are at least some die hard analog users like me who have their limits. It can't all be about analog for the sake of analog regardless of quality. For B&W too. Kodak makes great stuff. Ilford makes great stuff. As a B&W shooter, realistically, if they disappear, I doubt I'll be able to continue. And if Ilford were to go into colour materials on any scale I think it would spell the end for Ilford B&W (and colour). Sorry but we're talking about analog photography in a digital world, so yes the glass is half empty. Sorry to be a downer, Ken N., but how many analog people print colour?
    It's heresy but one reason I've not gotten back into color printing was that I never enjoyed it as much as black and white printing. I like making color images well enough, but I just don't enjoy the process itself that much, unlike black and white. I'm often tempted to just go digital for color anyway.

    OTOH, in black and white it's really the process I'm in love with. If I could get nothing else I'd still do black and white with Foma and Orwo, for example, or coat my own large format film/plates. Heck, I really love the wet plates I've seen and want to do that some day anyway, even if conventional materials are still available. Plus the process is just so retro cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    No intent to sound as if I'm on a rant, as that wasn't my intent. Perhaps I would rather convey to not be a worry wart. as for sex, not with these women around here. Maybe up in Connecticut you still have women. These women down here are what we might call "walmart customers", in the most delicate terms I can muster.
    Wonder what they think when they see you... hmmm haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Wonder what they think when they see you... hmmm haha
    Can they actually think ?

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    Stone, if digital is better than E6, then why do you use E6 instead of digital?

    But, OTOH, as you and Ken point out, there is a market for Lobo and TIP products. This is one that went by under my radar and I am sorry. Yes, it may be a viable source of customers, but these customers will tend to be less critical that most of us wrt color, grain and sharpness. So yes, I do agree with you on those points.

    PE

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    Here is the thing for all the memebrs that say 'Oh hell no' to Ilford color.

    The trend for film is extinction. No one can argue with that. My feelings are we should welcome any attempt a company makes at preserving film.

    If not, we will all be buying expired film on Ebay to feed our cams.

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    I would like Ilford to market some color films, not necessarily make them. Seems like they are the only company that has their act together with regard to a long-term plan, marketing, and customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    Too much rice in the emulsion.
    Some people like grain in their pictures.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    If the rest of the world wants to walk around with their pants pulled down and a cellphone pocket god, I will turn my sore eyes in another direction. I have no intention of participating in their careless lifestyle.
    You're talking about young people here, not photography.

    I hate living in a day and time when everything I have spent a lifetime getting good at is all dying.
    Pics or it didn't happen. (young people say this)

    I don't want to "save" film from extinction; I do not want to be an activist.--I just want it to be there. I abhor the activist mentality, and will not be one on this subject either.
    This is because you're old.
    'Cows are very fond of being photographed, and, unlike architecture, don't move.' - Oscar Wilde

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    Quote Originally Posted by batwister View Post
    You're talking about young people here, not photography.

    Pics or it didn't happen. (young people say this)

    This is because you're old.
    Probably should have let this one bake for another thirty minutes before clicking Submit...



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    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932



 

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