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    Quote Originally Posted by rayonline_nz View Post
    So a photoflo isn't required?
    If you get a kit with a STAB bath or final rinse, then some equivalent of Photoflo is in that bath. Do not rinse your film after STAB!
    Quote Originally Posted by rayonline_nz View Post
    Also, the 2nd color developer he went for 5mins instead is the 2nd chemical not fussy with the timing?
    The color developer (which you incorrectly call the second color developer) step is a step which runs to completion. This means you can do this step much longer if you want, and chances are that 5 minutes instead of 6 minutes also works. My personal recommendation would be to follow the manual that comes with the kit to the letter until you are very comfortable with color film development.
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    Well this is a goner. I emailed the guys suggested in Europe, they can send to me but the post alone is 40 Euro. Might be back to sending films to the USA for development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayonline_nz View Post
    Well this is a goner. I emailed the guys suggested in Europe, they can send to me but the post alone is 40 Euro. Might be back to sending films to the USA for development.
    40 euro shipping is still cheaper when you factor in that a 5L kit is 60 rolls. Do the math and you'll see that in the end you're better off DIY.
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    I just won't shoot that much, I am quite project oriented always on tripod.etc and at home we don't have any big skyscrapers, lakes or bridges so unless I travel. when I sent to USA 10 rolls took 18 months, so far I have 2 rolls of slides from my 10 day Japan trip 3 months ago, I did shoot b/w so my usual rate is 3 rolls for a 10 day trip. which why I may switch to medium format in due time. exposed film just sits in my chest freezer in my garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    40 euro shipping is still cheaper when you factor in that a 5L kit is 60 rolls. Do the math and you'll see that in the end you're better off DIY.
    ... and - more important - you'll have more fun ;-)

    But yes: shipping costs is always a bummer.
    I don't know if you need any film or something as well, but for instance the Fuji slide films seems to be half of the price compared to Australia (as told in some other threads).
    Like Fuji Provia 400 roll film (120) = 5 rolls for Euro 33 including 19% VAT. Fuji Provia 100 F roll film = 5 rolls for Euro 28.40 including VAT. They also have 135 film.
    And I think - since you're outside the EU - you don't have to pay the 19% VAT, if you ask for it. Might even compensate your import duties a bit ...
    So that might make it more interesting??
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheToadMen View Post
    ... and - more important - you'll have more fun ;-)

    But yes: shipping costs is always a bummer.
    I don't know if you need any film or something as well, but for instance the Fuji slide films seems to be half of the price compared to Australia (as told in some other threads).
    Like Fuji Provia 400 roll film (120) = 5 rolls for Euro 33 including 19% VAT. Fuji Provia 100 F roll film = 5 rolls for Euro 28.40 including VAT. They also have 135 film.
    And I think - since you're outside the EU - you don't have to pay the 19% VAT, if you ask for it. Might even compensate your import duties a bit ...
    So that might make it more interesting??
    With macodirect once you create your account and specify that you are outside of EU, it will subtract VAT. Also the shipping is up to certain weight, I ordered my Rollei C41 kit from them and I packed it with lots of rolls of film. Once I saw the shipping charges go up, I subtracted a roll.

    They also stock some great B&W film. Like the Rollei Retro 400s and 80s, cheap fomapan. I got a mix of B&W, C41 and E6 film from them.

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    The 5L is just not worth it because I would pour out 80% of it. Per year I probably shoot 5-7 rolls. I only use slide film when I go on a trip.
    60 rolls would take me over 6yrs to consume. With b/w film I am struggling to shoot 6 rolls per 6 months so I don't waste my 1L of ID11 Have shot 2 rolls from Japan developed those, I have 4 rolls in the freezer but haven't shot it yet. I don't photograph day to day stuff, I'm more into scenic. But then again most of the people here prefer color anyway when we have a get together.


    The 1L kit with the 40 Euro post is about the same as 10 rolls of film sent to the USA and back incl the development cost. VAT adjusted, I may save $10US.

    But again chems expiry. So this is going to have to be a regular thing, every 12 or 18 months thing when I collect my film up so every time I would have to get other stuff to justify more of the post cost..... I usually shoot Velvia 50 just their 135 format, it goes for equiv of $15US that's more than the pricetag $12US going in the USA.

    Edit - we don't have import tax unless we purchase $300US and up or abouts. If we did would make it even less attractive the 15% wacked on top which includes the freight cost ie - 15% x (merchandise + delivery cost). No duties however for photographic equipment.
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    ray: I think you need to start shooting more 120 format slide film around the beautiful areas you have. Heck, I could burn a few rolls just in one day without even leaving Island Bay or Lyall Bay :-). South Island it'd be probably be 20-30 rolls over some amount of days no problem. I'm a fairly judicious shooter as well, perhaps you just need to get out and shoot more? Alternatively maybe it's because you've already seen and shot it all - hence lack of interesting subjects. Do you photograph people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    ray: I think you need to start shooting more 120 format slide film around the beautiful areas you have. Heck, I could burn a few rolls just in one day without even leaving Island Bay or Lyall Bay :-). South Island it'd be probably be 20-30 rolls over some amount of days no problem. I'm a fairly judicious shooter as well, perhaps you just need to get out and shoot more? Alternatively maybe it's because you've already seen and shot it all - hence lack of interesting subjects. Do you photograph people?
    Nope, don't do much people. Ever I started reading into photography I enjoyed the likes of Galen Rowell etc. So unless I travel to the National Parks ie - the South Island. I have a few pro packs of 120 format but no camera yet still on 35mm.

    I have been to Lyall Bay and Island Bay and have shot them. I was just at Titahi Bay in the weekened and shot 20 frames off my Kodak Gold 100. Was in Palmerston North too on the Saturday and shot 10 shots of Superia 100, was raining lol. Finihsing up my C41 you see .. Just a roll of Fuji 160 NS and a roll of ProC 160. I may leave my UC400 and ProH 400 for overseas when I see family there. No don't do much people, birthdays and Christmas goes thru and I don't take the camera out unless we have visitors. But they are not that into photo's anyway so it is generally just 2 or 3 frames sitting together on the sofa.

    I've started doing some b/w for street photography. But the beaches here. B/c I am drawn to the likes of Galen Rowell with magenta skies we don't actually get much of that here. We get a very light pink hue but mostly it is just grey with maybe some yellow of the sun but it is not very strong so it needs to hit you at a certain angle as you face at it, and that is the most it gets. Post sunset the light becomes draws into a shadow and it just dulls away so we don't get any soft light hitting the sand / rocks either. Wellington is known to be windy and it's a big sea out there so there are like rocks and stuff ... So pretty much no reflections. No trees unless you want to see houses too or hill tops.

    Been toying around with twiligh blue skies since the light isn't great here. Which is ok for the CBD. In the beaches they just get too far too dark for the foreground.

    PS just a bit of what I have done ..
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/31194022@N00/

    I am more selective with film even when I shoot it, at home, if it is not so great I do use digital. Even when it was digital, I did just to chase sunrise but it wasted a lot petrol. On a Saturday, I would drive out early morning to Oriental Parade or Island Bay and it was just dissapointing, many times I came home without taking a shot. Would be a lot easier if I was in the CBD or lived near the Bay, but I live north of Johnsonville thru the motorway.
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