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    Geez guys, you are lucky you got anything. The E6 family of films are Br/I emulsions in the range of 1 - 5 microns whereas the ECP emulsions are 0.2 micron Cl/Br grains. The developers are designed accordingly. The E6 process can over develop the ECP family of products if you are not careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athiril View Post
    I've shot both camera negatives and slides with it.

    The slides looked pretty reasonable at the time, but I need to get my hands on the can again (2000ft can) I cant remember where I left it. Mine was Vision Print not Premier. Mine also has remjet to deal with.


    For the slides, I think I recall using E-6 first developer at 30 degrees and diluted 1:1.
    Did they used to put RemJet on print film? The current stuff seems to not have it:

    http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploa...ab_h12383t.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    So because it has a clear base you were able to shoot it and x-process in E6?
    Yes, I gotta find where I put that strip, and also the can of film so I can do it again. I got better results as a camera film then I did contacting printing 5201 50D to it and running SD-50 (mixed from raw components, and yes I did use CD-2). I dont know why, must be my exposure. I couldn't quite get it right to look decent.

    It's designed for projectable positive images. It's very close to clear, it has a slight bias iirc.

    It's also designed for printing from negatives with the orange integral mask, through tungsten light.


    Developer is on page 9-20
    http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploa...2409_ecp2e.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Geez guys, you are lucky you got anything. The E6 family of films are Br/I emulsions in the range of 1 - 5 microns whereas the ECP emulsions are 0.2 micron Cl/Br grains. The developers are designed accordingly. The E6 process can over develop the ECP family of products if you are not careful.

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    It's why I chose to dilute the developer, to lower the solvent action that would be faster, as well as the developing agents to reduce development rate, as well as process at a lower than normal temp (by 8 degrees C). I would have adjusted from there, but it seemed like a good starting point.

    The other reason I chose to dilute, is also again to lower the solvent action, as I read somewhere in E-6 first developer formulations, that less thiocyanate results in increased yellow in the slide.

    It's always fun to experiment and see what I you can use something for before you miss the chance to ever try.

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    Dan, your graph is lacing in the blue layer. Something is wrong with it.

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    My apologies. The yellow is almost invisible in both graphs, but it is there. That appears to be the typical spectrogram of a print film or color paper in which the blue is the fast layer and the red is the "speed" layer or slowest. This is why you generally start with a 50R filter pack.

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