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    Agfa 12 ST-2 Orwo 12 modern equivalent developer

    Does anyone know which developer would be the modern version of this?
    Agfa 12
    St-2
    Orwo 12

    http://photoformulary.wordpress.com/...-a12-ansco-12/

    Something like D-76?

    I have
    Rodinal
    HC-110
    and Rodinal special
    but I guess none of them is similar.

    Basically I have some old Svema FN64, Orwo NP15, Tasma films and would like to use a similar developer that was in use, but without mixing chemicals. I just don´t have the possibility to do that at least for now and to order chemicals to Iceland is complex.
    One day though I will mix my own.

    I know lot of people develop it in Rodinal 1+25 for 6-7 minute.
    But would like options and if possible to buy a ready mixed similar chemical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auroraua View Post
    Does anyone know which developer would be the modern version of this?
    Agfa 12
    St-2
    Orwo 12

    http://photoformulary.wordpress.com/...-a12-ansco-12/

    Something like D-76?

    I have
    Rodinal
    HC-110
    and Rodinal special
    but I guess none of them is similar.

    Basically I have some old Svema FN64, Orwo NP15, Tasma films and would like to use a similar developer that was in use, but without mixing chemicals. I just don´t have the possibility to do that at least for now and to order chemicals to Iceland is complex.
    One day though I will mix my own.

    I know lot of people develop it in Rodinal 1+25 for 6-7 minute.
    But would like options and if possible to buy a ready mixed similar chemical.
    This formula looks a bit like D-23 plus Sodium Carbonate and Potassium Bromide, very unusual by today's standards, and I don't think you will get anything like it prepackaged. Note, that Rodinal and D-76 were older than this Agfa 12.
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    If you want the look - take appropriate old lens a well. I did used Rodinal with old Svema, but with modern nikkor lenses. Results were just fine, but no "older" look than for example efke (adox) films.

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    darkosaric has a very good point. For that old look, which I prefer myself by the way, you need old glass.

    This example probably isn't what you're looking for, but it's sorta interesting. When I first started developing I was getting all sorts of odd looks. Now, unfortunately, I know what I'm doing and cannot replicate those earlier "mistakes". It's a pity, as some of the earlier stuff had an old look to it that I liked a lot.


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    Hi momus,

    if you want mistake and old look that you will not be able to repeat (again) - take some old expired B&W film from ebay, some old box camera and develop semi-stand in Rodinal 1+100 for one hour .

    Joke on the side - what method did you used before (lens, film, developer...)? Maybe we can help ?

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    I have both Soviet rangefinders and Zeiss medium format folder - Nettar 518 and Ikonta IV.
    So far I have developed these films in Rodinal, but I just tried a stand development - got to scan and process the photos in Rodinal/HC-110 Combo.
    I have created albums for test rolls
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/104979973@N04/sets
    and the results of these old films should be here as well:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/104979...7643128692725/



 

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