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    I'm not a color specialist, but I thought that one of the Polaroid processes were archival or at least, very long lasting.
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    HI Scott,

    The biggest problem with Kodachrome is not they can't or won't make it, the biggest problem you run into now is the states will not allow anyone to process them due to the highly enviormentally dangerous chemicals involved in the development of them, if I remember right, there is only one active lab in the US that is still currently processing K process films, and Rocky Mountain Labs in CO, does one run a year of the different K process films. I doubt that we will see the K process films much longer, and after they discontinued the ISO 25 Kodachrome, there really was not much left of it IMHO, the K64 and the K200 have never lived up to what K25 was.

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    According to this book published in the late 1990's, Fujichrome E6 slide film lasted longer than Kodachrome when projected but Kodachrome performed better when kept in the dark. I've no idea about current technology colour films but I'm sure RIT or the Wilhelm Research site linked to above will have tested them.

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    I saw this on the tube a short while ago. It was pretty interesting.
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media...ann_06-10.html

    This, from the transcript is pretty wild:
    TERENCE SMITH: And how long will these last?

    HENRY WILHELM: Based on accelerated aging data, depending on the original condition, we're basically talking about thousands of years; not hundreds, thousands.

    TERENCE SMITH: Wow.

    And next November, the temperature in this in this 10,000-square-foot cavern -- Wilhelm likens it to an ice cave -- will be dropped to minus- four degrees Fahrenheit, bringing time to a standstill. For now, the collection is being stabilized at 45 degrees, temperate enough to allow a walk through time.
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    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loose Gravel
    I'm not a color specialist, but I thought that one of the Polaroid processes were archival or at least, very long lasting.

    not sure, but the rumor is that PN55 film is panatomic-x. i've heard that some folks remove it from the sleeve + process it in film developer instead of the polaroid chemicals ... so it could have an archival wash &C.

    a few years back i asked polaroid abour the longevity/archival quality of their other film, and they were not able to give me any info. tracy storer uses one of those 20x24 polariod cameras, maybe he knows ?

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    Twenty years ago, the Lab that I was working for sent me to take the Kodak seminar on E-6 process control at their offices in Manhattan.

    The instructor was their top Tech Rep at the time and at one point he told us that every time Kodak made an improvement to Ektachrome, they did a major side by side evaluation and comparison to Kodachrome in an effort to justify discontinuing the K films and process. They never could.

    If that was true, and they have looking for an excuse to toss Kodachrome for that long, it is a miracle that it has survived for this long.
    That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satinsnow
    HI Scott,

    IMHO, the K64 and the K200 have never lived up to what K25 was.

    Dave
    Quite agree. K25 was a classic. I still miss it. I actually have two rolls left in the freezer which I am saving for a special occasion. I now use Velvia (something else about to go) rather then K64 and never really saw the point of K200.

    David.

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    Yeh, the 200 isn't very good. The 64 is better. I still have some frozen K25 that I also am saving for special occasions. I send mine to Dwayne's in Kansas. I checked out Rocky Mountain's site. What a rip off for processing. I only pay $6 for a roll of 24 exp, or $8.50 for a roll of 36 at Dwaynes.
    Rocky Mountain wants $27.50 with shipping for 1 roll or $51 for 2 rolls. With prices like that no wonder nobody shoots Kodachrome.

    Check out Dwayne's web site:

    http://k14movies.com/

    I have had good results and great service (plus it is the only place I know of where I can buy fresh Kodachrome Regular 8 movie film)
    Scott Stadler

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    Scott,

    If Dwayne is still doing it, then by all means, your getting a heck of deal at those prices, I can't even buy the chemicals to do it that cheap!


    But I still say, the Kodachrome will not be around for that much longer, the Kodachrome that Dwayne is getting is post production stock, as Kodak has announced they will no longer be producing the 8 mm movie film anylonger, enjoy it while it lasts....and thanks for the link, I still have about 100 rolls of K25, and it is good to know I can send it there to get processed.

    Dave

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    Ive never used Kodachrome, it was discontinued in Australia just as I was getting into Photography. Is it worth the effort to order some rolls from overseas?

    Daniel.

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