Art - You are right about the rest of the Cafe Ilfopro site, it HAS picked up lately. I am concerned about the lack of activity in the Ilfochrome topic area. I get a lot more useful info from the APUG color developing topic area in terms of Ilfochrome data. It would probably behoove us all to get more active on the Ilford site and get people interested in their products. Hope we can collectively keep consuming enough Ilfochrome material to keep it in production!