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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcallow
    Bob Carnie's lab in toronto Canada does Ilfo/Ciba-Chromes. I have seen the work and it is outstanding.
    Excellent. I've heard many very positive comments about Bob's work but never could find contact info. Thanks!

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    BTW, why do people say "while its still available", is there any reason to think me might loose Cibachrome? Is it a process which is practical to make in low volumes?

    Daniel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaggs
    BTW, why do people say "while its still available", is there any reason to think me might loose Cibachrome? Is it a process which is practical to make in low volumes?

    Daniel.
    There are two reasons that people may have lost confidence in the continued availability of Ilfochrome (AKA Cibachrome).

    1. Ilford has not AFAIK, made any emphatic statement about it either way but, all their recent press does seem to emphasise the company's commitment to "Monochrome".

    2. Like I said before, most labs simply don't do it anymore. I've even been told ny one lab that the materials were discontinued - which, I do not believe to be completely true.

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    I think a lot of labs would like for you to believe that digital is he only way they can make enlargements.
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    With Velvia, it's probably because the average LF'er would rather have a digital scan and a nice print than pay for the unsharp mask and other hand-work to tame the contrast of Velvia when printing.

    Being as I'm trying to *deleted* some 2 1/4 Velvia in order to figure out what I care to spend the money on printing, I've come to think of Velvia as Multiflora Rose; it's pretty enough in the right locations, but everywhere else it should be treated with full-strength Roundup. The high values have detail, the mid-tones are good, the slightest shadow and right off the cliff. The pictures in open shade are gorgeous, but anything in sun may not be enlargeable, just because of the blank shadow areas.

    To the original poster; take a deep breath, don't be cheap, and be willing to Bracket any scene you think is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fparnold
    With Velvia, it's probably because the average LF'er would rather have a digital scan and a nice print than pay for the unsharp mask and other hand-work to tame the contrast of Velvia when printing.

    Being as I'm trying to *deleted* some 2 1/4 Velvia in order to figure out what I care to spend the money on printing, I've come to think of Velvia as Multiflora Rose; it's pretty enough in the right locations, but everywhere else it should be treated with full-strength Roundup. The high values have detail, the mid-tones are good, the slightest shadow and right off the cliff. The pictures in open shade are gorgeous, but anything in sun may not be enlargeable, just because of the blank shadow areas.

    To the original poster; take a deep breath, don't be cheap, and be willing to Bracket any scene you think is important.
    I have made a good portion of my living shooting Velvia for about 20 years now, in sizes from 35mm to 4x5 and shot provia in my 20 x 24 camera and don't find my experiance to be what you have stated in your message, and I have to say, I must not be the average LF shooter, cause I would much prefer a well done Ciba over a digital scan any day of the week.

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    I congratulate you (seriously) on taming it for your work. I found Provia or Ektachrome 100 more forgiving and easier for me to get good prints from. Velvia looks gorgeous as transparencies, but has always given me and the places I took it fits during printing. It does behave well on hazy-sun days, or in open shadows for me.

    I have transparencies that look on as far as high values and mid-tones, and when I opened up a bit for the shadows, the high-values got real light quickly. Otherwise, it seems that the shadows block up quickly, and in that sense was hard for me to handle. I only mention the other alternative because West Coast Imaging made me some very nice enlargements from 120 Velvia a year ago, on Crystal Archive.

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    I use Chrome & "R" here in Los Angeles for C prints and have been very happy. I've had them done from 4x5 E100 VS and 6x6 positive processed TXP. The people there have always been friendly and accommodating as well. If you're a transparency freak like me, I recommend you check them out.

    http://www.chromeandr.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaggs
    BTW, why do people say "while its still available", is there any reason to think me might loose Cibachrome? Is it a process which is practical to make in low volumes?

    Daniel.
    I talked to Christopher Burkett a few weeks ago; he is one of the biggest buyers of Cibachrome - buying a full year's supply at once. He didn't seem worried about it going away.
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    Oops, I meant R prints in my previous post, not C. Guess I shouldn't post right after I wake up. =)

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