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    Stupid which film is better question

    I do not like neg color film. Not because it is worse than Slide or anything like that but because I can't read neg film. The orangeness of it keeps me from interpreting the colors. I like transparencies because what I see on the slide is what I see on the slide. I can take it to the printer and say match the slide. If I said that about a neg I would get an orange POS. I feel I am in less control with Negative color film.

    So what Slide film deals with people the best? My new one will be here very soon and I want to be better prepared than the last time. BW no problem. Color on the other hand is stumping me.

    From what I have seen Astia does real well, but those were only in magazines. I have not seen anything done with other films beside Velvia. I accidentally shot some pictures of my son with velvia and was not impressed.

    All images will be shot with available light at wide aperatures.

    I know this is personal but I want opinions and reasons. Thanks.
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    I have been shooting Kodak E100G and processing in Agfa "Process 44" and love it.

    The colours are vibrant - reminds me of the colour spreads in National Geographic - though their photographers aren't half as good as I am ;-)

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    I would suggest Fuji Astia or Kodak Elitechrome. The elitechrome is a "consumer" level slide film that is both cheap (in comparison to Kodak's other offerings) and works very well with skin tones. These are both daylight/flash balanced films, though--will these shots be available light from the sun or artificial, because that would make a big difference.

    I also liked Provia in the Fuji slide category; it gives a little more snap in the colors than Astia, but renders skin tones quite well.

    I have personally shot all of the above films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Moore
    I would suggest Fuji Astia or Kodak Elitechrome. The elitechrome is a "consumer" level slide film that is both cheap (in comparison to Kodak's other offerings) and works very well with skin tones. These are both daylight/flash balanced films, though--will these shots be available light from the sun or artificial, because that would make a big difference.

    I also liked Provia in the Fuji slide category; it gives a little more snap in the colors than Astia, but renders skin tones quite well.

    I have personally shot all of the above films.

    I've never really been into slides before, but would be tempted if I wanted to do any color shooting. I've got some Kodachrome slides of me in 1962 that still look like they were shot & processed yesterday (well.. I don't look like I do in '62, although some folks might be inclined to say I occasionally act like it ;) ).

    I notice at B&H, Kodachrome is still available, though from other apug threads I know that only one lab still processes Kodachrome, and Kodak outsources to them. B&H's price on Kodachrome-64 is US$6, US$12 for Kodachrome-64 pro (both 135-36) and US$9 for a mailer to process via Kodak (who actually, if memory serves, ships it to a non-Kodak lab in Montana, US).

    How do people project slides nowadays? I take it the old Kodak Carasells (sp..) are defunct and pretty much eBay only.

    Just ignore if there's a risk of hijaacking Mark's thread. This just reminded me that I had some slide questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark
    So what Slide film deals with people the best? My new one will be here very soon and I want to be better prepared than the last time. BW no problem. Color on the other hand is stumping me.

    From what I have seen Astia does real well, but those were only in magazines. I have not seen anything done with other films beside Velvia. I accidentally shot some pictures of my son with velvia and was not impressed.
    Velvia is definetely the wrong choice for taking pictures of people, the skin tones are horrible - the film is designed for landscapes. Astia 100F is supposed to be the best for doing portraits; you may also want to try Provia 100F to see if you like it.
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    I like Ektachrome E200 as an all-round film for people. It pushes and pulls well, has a fairly neutral colour balance, a comparatively low contrast and the right sharpness/graininess for my preferences. If that isn't fast enough, then EPH is the stuff (Ektachrome P1600 - it needs a two-stop push to reach EI 1600) in 35 mm.

    Indoors, in incandescent light, I use Ektachrome 320T (EPJ, only available in 35 mm - 160T EPT is the fastest in 120) pushed as many stops as necessary. Household incandescent lights being generally below the 3200 K that EPJ is intended for, I use a KB6 (Wratten 80D) filter for improving the colour balance.

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    For people, Astia 100F is a great choice, and for tungsten, I'll agree with Helen on Ektachrome 320T in 35mm. Provia is a little punchier than Astia without being excessive.
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    Astia F is a very nice transparency film. IMO if you want analog color prints than you are going to be better off with a negative film. I certainly hope that you are not going to scan slides so that you can use an inkjet printer to make prints,,,that is just to sad to contemplate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire Senft
    I certainly hope that you are not going to scan slides so that you can use an inkhet printer to make prints,,,that is just to sad to contemplate.
    Ick. No. I am avoiding the Negs just because I can't read them.

    I will look for the films listed and probably get a selection of the two. I will be shooting 35mm-4x5 so my options are open. Thought I would try some handheld 4x5 color shots of the new little human.
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    So, I think the "greats" were true to their visions, once their visions no longer sucked. Ralph Barker 12/2004

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    Consistent handling, printing and working with color negatives, it will soon become nearly as easy to read them as a B&W neg. Just takes a little practice to see the actual density rather than it's color. Don't give up, keep
    working at it, it will come!

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