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    Ceased production of Agfa RSX II 50, replacement film for 120 type?

    I still have 10 rolls in stock (I should maybe stock more), but sooner or later, maybe in the next 12 months, I have to find a suitable replacement.

    In other words: if you have used/are still using Agfa RSX II films, what will be your future choice, and why?

    Please don't tell me that you are using Fuji Velvia 50 and that must be a perfect replacement, as most (colour blind?) photo dealers are telling me (maybe just because ISO 50 is written on the box). Velvia is not a replacement for me because it has extreme, unnatural colour saturation and skin rendering.

    I guess Kodak and Fuji are the only possible candidates for 120 film type.
    There is nothing like Scala? There are various alternatives!
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    Hi Hans, I would recomend you try try a roll of Fuji Astia 100 F it has a much less saturated colour rendition and softer contrast than velvia, and produces lovely natural skin tones , I shoot mainly portraits and I'm constantly amazed at the quality of the results this film produces.
    Velvia is great for landscape work, and applications that can utilize It's high colour purity, saturation and contrast, but it was never intended for portraiture.
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    I quite like Kodak E100G and E100GX myself. Or EPP. I never cared much for the colour rendition of Fuji slide films.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bentley Boyd
    Hi Hans, I would recomend you try try a roll of Fuji Astia 100 F it has a much less saturated colour rendition and softer contrast than velvia, and produces lovely natural skin tones , I shoot mainly portraits and I'm constantly amazed at the quality of the results this film produces.
    Velvia is great for landscape work, and applications that can utilize It's high colour purity, saturation and contrast, but it was never intended for portraiture.
    I have seen Astia 100 F slides once, and I must admit I found the colour rendition remarkable. Remarkable in a sense that this film renders differently from what I am used from RSX II and the impression is not unpleasant. But I have the feeling that this film renders everything into pastel. I think this film enriches transparency photography because I have not seen slides like that before.

    On the other hand I am looking for a film with more realistic colours. I am carrying 2 120 film magazines already for b/w and colour work.
    There is nothing like Scala? There are various alternatives!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    I quite like Kodak E100G and E100GX myself. Or EPP. I never cared much for the colour rendition of Fuji slide films.
    What is EPP?

    I have seen slides from E100G and found them quite good. This is a candidate. Do you have scans from E100G and E100GX? I would be interested to see how much warmer the GX is over G. Is the G comparable to the yellow warm tones of Kodachrome films?

    BTW, I travel to Norway almost on a yearly basis, I could interpret colour rendition of norwegian landscape shots.
    There is nothing like Scala? There are various alternatives!
    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum228/...cala-200x.html

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    Velvia 50 is no longer made.

    You could also try Velvia 100, 100F (less saturation than the 100). Provia 100F is also an excellent choice - it doesn't have the saturation of Velvia, but has great color rendition and is fantastically sharp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Borjes
    What is EPP?

    I have seen slides from E100G and found them quite good. This is a candidate. Do you have scans from E100G and E100GX? I would be interested to see how much warmer the GX is over G. Is the G comparable to the yellow warm tones of Kodachrome films?

    BTW, I travel to Norway almost on a yearly basis, I could interpret colour rendition of norwegian landscape shots.
    EPP is Ektachrome 100 Plus.

    I looked through the scans I have of E100G and E100GX, but they're a bit "compromised" in that some of the shots (with both films) were shot with two APO-Lanthars with visible yellowing. I tend to use those lenses (I only have one of them now, the 150mm) when the light seems a little too cool for my taste.

    At least this one was shot on EPN (Ektachrome 100) with a reasonably colour-neutral lens (Angulon 165mm f:6.8, on 13x18cm film). If I'd had a holder loaded with EPP, I would have used that.
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    Provia 100F is well worth trying. It is a little different from RSX II but it is a gorgeous film.

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    Replacement Film

    Quote Originally Posted by Bentley Boyd
    Hi Hans, I would recomend you try try a roll of Fuji Astia 100 F it has a much less saturated colour rendition and softer contrast than velvia, and produces lovely natural skin tones , I shoot mainly portraits and I'm constantly amazed at the quality of the results this film produces.
    Velvia is great for landscape work, and applications that can utilize It's high colour purity, saturation and contrast, but it was never intended for portraiture.
    I used Agfa slide films for more than twenty years Hans Agfa CT18, and 50S and L Pro and know what you mean about the colour rendition of the film , but I don't think anyone makes a film that's anything like it these days, films generally are more saturated these days because that's what the market requires, some that produce less " Mickey Mouse" colours are Kodak Ektachrome 100, Fuji Provia, Fuji Astia F , try shooting a roll of each and see which you prefer, colour is very subjective and we all have our own ideas of what is natural colour.
    Ben

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    Some time ago I shot a test roll with Ektachrome 100. Is this one identical to E100G?

    Provia 100 F is something I have to try, maybe Astia 100 F as well. The test results I have seen on Fuji recently were on 135 film, I probably need to see it on 120 as well.
    There is nothing like Scala? There are various alternatives!
    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum228/...cala-200x.html

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