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    Problem develloping Ilfochrome

    Hi,
    First of all I want to introduce myself as I am new in this forum:

    My name is Julien and I live and work in France. I found this site looking for Ilfochrome informations and I read here in a day more than anywhere else in monthes.

    I start Ilfochrome this week and already have a unpleasant problem.
    Some of my prints present white "leaks" (I don't know the correct word) and so either way I devellop with a wet drum or a completly dry one. I tried adjusting with 120mL or 150mL of solution (I make 30x40cm) and it still the same.
    The only time it works was with the two first prints and the last one when I tried a pre-rince during one minute (with temperated water).

    To be said as I remember:
    - I took the paper out of the fridge just before the session.
    - The paper is out of date since 1998.

    Thanks in advance for your advices,
    Julien.

    P.S: I spot with red arrows the "leaks".
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    Welcome to the Forum Julien, especially so since you are using a colour process.
    It's a long time since I did any colour printing but I always did a pre-rinse for the reasons you show here. In fact I still use a pre-rinse when using FB paper for the same reason although I only do monochrome work these days.
    I'm sure you will get plenty of helpful advice here.
    Regards Dave.

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    Hi Julien and welcome!
    Can you give us more process details?
    Is it P30 chems?
    Is the whole process in tempered bath?
    Do you limit the rinse after the developer to the same volume as the developer?
    Is the drum completely dry before you insert paper?
    I let my paper come to room temp for 24 hours before using it.
    DT

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    My process:

    Is it P30 chems?
    Yes

    Is the whole process in tempered bath?
    Yes

    Do you limit the rinse after the developer to the same volume as the developer?
    No I pured fare more (three or four times).

    Is the drum completely dry before you insert paper?
    I did etheir way for the same bad result

    I let my paper come to room temp for 24 hours before using it.
    You right and I know but remember it too late

    Erreur de débutant,
    Julien.

    P.S: If it's the amount after developer can you explain it?

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    Sounds like you're very close!
    I really don't know why the extra rinse volume affects the next step, but all the Jobo drum instructions require it.
    I use the exact amount as the developer for 30 secs.
    I'm not sure that's what causing the streaks though.
    Are you allowing at least 30 secs to drain each step?
    Keep trying!
    DT

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    Thanks for your precious advices, I will try it this week.
    Also the new data of drained each step 30 seconds should help...Did not respect this so far.

    Thanks again,
    Julien.

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    A sign of good character is gratitude.
    Good luck bud.
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    Julien,

    Does the light leak look light water dripping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boyooso View Post
    Julien,

    Does the light leak look light water dripping?

    Corey
    Absolutly, like if a drop runs from one side to the other. On his path the color is toped by a sort of white fog.

    You seem to know, isn't it?

    Julien.

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    I had the same sort of drip marks appear on 8x10 film a while back.

    Are you using a jobo?

    Are the lids to your drums dry? Sometimes water in the light baffle can leak onto the film or paper and cause differential development or bleaching...

    Another issue might be the initial moments when the chemicals hit the paper and lack of sufficient chemicals to cover the entire sheet.

    Or, the problem might lack of sufficent agitation at the very early moments when the chemicals enter the drum.

    I hope that helps.

    Corey

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