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    Kodacolor VR 200 & 400 for sale

    In a new supermarket(ALDI) just opened in my town I noticed 2 Kodak colour neg films as above which I hadn't seen before. I have done a check on the internet before posting this and it seems as if the film was discontinued in the mid 80s, yet these films have expiry dates of 2009 and the boxes are in pristine condition.

    Seems unlikely that supermarket chain would have acquired such films in the mid 80s in such quantities to still be able to sell it in 2007. It was their only film in stock. Anyway I doubt if the chain existed as far back as the mid 80s anyway

    I have never seen it at any other photographic sales point.

    Can anybody supply an explanation? The film was cheap( about 90p per film) compared to Kodak Gold, Potra etc but not giveaway prices compared to some Fuji Superia I've seen from internet stockists but it is cheap compared to local stockists and easily obtained.

    I have a feeling that buying it will be taking a chance but any information will be gratefully received.

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    You won't be taking a chance on Kodak film, or Fuji film. If the price is good, get it.

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    I've seen similar "unknown" Kodak designations in Walgreens here in the US.

    At 90P what do you have to lose by grabbing a few rolls to play with?

    BTW: I used this thread as an impetus to poke around the Kodak site. Here's a link to current coupons for consumer film packages.

    http://coupons.kodak.com/HFU/hfu.asp

    The holidays are coming.....

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    Can you take a photo of the film box and shown it here?

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    Thanks for answers so far. I mentioned last night that I had searched the internet but didn't mention where. Well it was photo.net. The info seemed a little sketchy but I noticed our own PE had commented on a number of threads on colour film.

    Anyway I decided to try a search again tonight and was again directed to photonet but this time got one relevant thread with responses dated 2000 and 2001.

    For what it is worth and in the hope of adding to the sum of our knowledge these were the pertinent points, bearing in mind that this is all 6-7 years ago:

    1.George McGuire who was(maybe still is) a Kodak Consumer Affairs Specialist said that it was fresh film made from older technologies for value conscious consumers who shouldn't expect the latest state of the art emulsion, couplers, dyes etc.
    2. There was also one poster confirming in his opinion its cheap and cheerful nature. Another who said it was made primarily for "one viewing" organisations such as insurance companies, advertising agencies, police. So intended for short term work purposes.

    So far so good and really with all posts confirming my suspicions but at least verifying that in 2000 it was fresh stock, still being produced despite the general belief that it had been discontinued in the mid 80s. My guess is that it is still being produced as fresh stock for the supermarket chain I referred to which has a policy of "pile them high and sell them cheap".

    However I then noticed another post in the thread which put the film into a much better light. Apparently a German magazine had conducted a recent survey/test(so presumably year 2000?) in which Kodak VR had scored more highly for sharpness than the newer Kodak Golds and Fuji Superias and was marginally better than Kodak Gold and marginally worse than Fuji Superia for colour rendition.

    Overall the poster's conclusions as a user was that for sharpness it could not be beat and was ideal for producing low contrast and subtle colours. So good for portraiture and high contrast scenes where he felt that Superia fell short.

    So one man's washed out colours is another's subtle colours and better lower contrast. No surprise there either

    If anyone can confirm that this product is still on sale in the U.S. and better still confrim that it is still being produced by Kodak for places like supermarkets, I'd be grateful.

    Better still if there is anybody out there with experience of it, I'd appreciate any comments.

    On the technical side maybe PE can shed some light on a direct comparison with such products as the later and current Kodak range.

    As you have said it is finally a question of trying it but I hope that my research has been of some interest and maybe of use.

    Thanks

    pentaxuser

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    We have the same film here in our local Aldi store. It is either sourced and packaged in Germany, or is wholly manufactured in Germany, as far as I can ascertain.

    Whatever, it is a good film. One of my friends who is using colour neg film purchased some and we made some prints from it, both the 200 & 400 versions. Nothing at all wrong with it.

    It appears to be a standard high contrast high saturation colour film, which, from what little I know about Kodak consumer films, is standard.

    Anything I have ever used with Kodak on it, is always made to an extremely high standard. Whether their version of a colour negative film is suitable to you, is another matter.

    People here, are buying it by the bag, including myself.

    As a matter of interest, I visited an Aldi store in Germany last month, they had the same film in the same place as in the Australian stores, near, but not at the checkout.

    Mick.

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    I have gotten several stories on the source and formulas for Kodak films. I am still trying to sort them out.

    I dobut if Kodak even knows.

    PE

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    I am using this film at the moment, and it is good, you wont be disappointed.
    Lidl was selling Fuji colour for 50p a roll a couple of months ago.

    Charlie

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    Kodak started film-manufacturing in Germany in 1927 in their plant in Berlin-Köpenick which they run up to 1940.

    Here is a brochure of the later “Kodak-East” from 1953!
    http://cgi.ebay.de/Kodak-Filmfabrik-...QQcmdZViewItem
    This company run under the Kodak name until 1956. Then it became a peoples-owned company. Now a private one with a different name it is still producing film. (But surely not that Aldi one…)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    I have gotten several stories on the source and formulas for Kodak films. I am still trying to sort them out.

    I dobut if Kodak even knows.

    PE
    PE and anyone else. It would be interesting if the source of manufacture was identified. Based on what I found and others' comments it must still be being made. If Aldi( pile them high sell them cheap) here and in OZ is buying it then it's being bought in large quantities for sale. At my branch of Aldi it is on the checkout rather than in store. May be just too easily pocketed to risk displaying it in store.

    However if it is old technology as was said by a Kodak spokesman some 7 years ago, is it likely that Kodak itself is still producing a 1980s film alongside its newer offerings or has it been outsourced but under the Kodak label?

    Mick and others. Thanks for what turns out to be positive reviews of the film.

    Anyone care to make a comparison with Fuji Superia and the current range of Professional Fuji and Kodak films.

    I'll definitely be giving it a go.

    Thanks

    pentaxuser

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