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    Ektar 25 vs New Ektar 100 Results

    First off I'll say I did this test for fun and it isn't anything definative. I just wanted to see how well the new film would perform against the old Ektar 25. I'll start off and say the Ektar 25 roll did ok, but it does suffer from the grain up problem my other rolls of Royal Gold 25 suffered. You can see the white specs mixed in with the grain that makes the image unsmooth. This is what happens when RG25/ Ektar 25 deteriorates. But the test gave me a good idea of what both films could do. First off I'll state how I did this test. I used two Canon SLRs- an Elan 7 and an EOS 1N. Both cameras used the same 50mm 1.8 lens which I switched from each camera. The F stop was kept at F8 on both cameras and I just adjusted the shutter speed down two stops for the 25 ISO film. Tripod was used. I let the cameras do the focus lock. The films were processed on a Noritsu V100 C-41 machine and scanned on a Noritsu 3011 printer. Scans were color adjusted for each roll and saved as a Tiff file at 3000x2000 16 base scans. For the 100% crop photos I used my 3200 dpi Konica Minolta Scan Dual IV. I used Vuescan for the film scanner and also made adjustments to the color. Now as per the color- I adjusted because I wanted to see what the best possible result would be from these two films. It doesn't make anything definative, but it would give me an idea of color saturation and overall color look between the two films. And my main concern was how grain compared between these two films, though as I said the Ektar suffers from the white specs syndrome which many of these rolls suffer from due to age and freezing. So anyway take a look at the scans to give you an idea of what to expect. The color is definately better and brighter on the new film, while the old film looks more muddy in the colors. Also the old film is indeed sharper, but the newer film seems to have smoother grain. I suspect grain size would be similar if it weren't for the aged 25 film. I have 1 more roll of each film to do one more test if I needed to, but I think what I see below speaks enough. The new film is definately worth getting, especially in light of how old rolls of Ektar 25 will suffer from some aging. So here are the first shots. This first one was what fall leaves were left on trees. The day at the time this was taken was overcast with no sun.

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252430


    Next shot the sun did come out, but it was not full blown sunny out- just partially. Enough to give some light on the subject shots.

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252454

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252456


    And then I got my usual suspect to pose for me which was in the morning again in overcast conditions.

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252458

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252460

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252461


    And here is some full shost of a pic with the crop from a section below it.

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252464

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252471

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252465

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252473

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252468

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252475

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252470

    http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8252476


    As you can see the colors on the new film are brighter which is consistent on how their new emulsions have gone lately.

    I rated them at box speed for both films since this is what Kodak wants. But I am aware the 100 speed film likes to be overexposed, but I have yet to try that.
    Last edited by braxus; 11-18-2008 at 12:04 AM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Thanks for you're valuable and interesting contribution, it looks to me as if the new Ekrar 100 gives a most creditable performance against the 25 ISO version and in most cases looks better to me, I look forward to shooting some as soon as I can get my hands on some.
    Ben

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    This is very nice to see. I am pleased that the new film is less contrasty than the Ektar 25. Ektar 25 did have the ability to be excessively contrasty and in some cases to have noticeable cross-over. A solid performance at 100 speed will certainly be helpful to both those who handhold their cameras or who photography non static objects.
    Claire (Ms Anne Thrope is in the darkroom)

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    Thanks for the tests. I'm almost done shooting my test roll and am looking forward to the results.
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    I did shoot Ektar 25 when it was widely available. And its best performance in my experience was obtained in cloudy days rather than sunny days.

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    Ektar 100 should be called Ektar 64 from my experience. It is wickedly contrasty: http://is.gd/7Z9c

    It is like #5 Neg film from my experience. If you like Velvia...

    ~Steve Sloan
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    Thanks for that. I prefer the colour rendition of the 100 and it seems to have a better resolution judging by the enlargement of sections with writing.

    pentaxuser

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    I guess we will have to see what Fuji does but the film looks as if it will be very popular with film users.
    Claire (Ms Anne Thrope is in the darkroom)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire Senft View Post
    I guess we will have to see what Fuji does but the film looks as if it will be very popular with film users.
    Might be less so in the U.K. depending on price. Amateur Photographer magazine was quoting £6.39 a roll about 2 months ago. If that's an equivalent sterling conversion from a $ price set by Kodak at the exchange rate at date of publication, then given the £'s collapse goodness knows what it might be by the time it arrives which I think was quoted as end January 2009.

    By then some of our banks may be worth less than one day's Kodak production

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    Pentaxuser,
    I find it very hard to believe that a film that can be bought for 3,6 euros in Germany will cost £6.39 in the UK.

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