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 Originally Posted by Photo Engineer Kodak color products were once shipped cold. I can remember the Kodak refrigerated trucks delivering ice cold packages of color paper to our photofinishing lab back when Kodak was its own distributor and had a fleet of trucks nationwide.
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 Originally Posted by brianmquinn PE
I guess your reply means the old story of Pro films being aged to perfection and then shipped cold is really not true.
What is done in shipping, even much more temperature sensitive stuff then film, is one of 4 possible remedies, going from cheapest to most expensive.
1) Use 1 dαy shipping to minimize the exposure to extreme heat, although it's often possible for the inside of a trailer or container to exceed 40℃/104℉ when it's been in the sun all day.
2) Use 1 day shipping and ship in an insulated box, this will moderate the temperature somewhat, if it's quite cold at the beginning then it shouldn't get too hot.
3) Use 1 day shipping and pack in a foam container with ice or dry ice, the idea being that by the time the (dry) ice has melted, that it will have arrived. Dry ice is considered a class 9 dangerous good and requires special handling in shipping. Typically if it needs refrigeration on arrival they use ice, if it needs to be kept frozen, it gets dry ice. I think one company ships steaks this way. The risk with ice and dry ice shipments is that if for some reason it can not be delivered within a time limit, then it may not be of any use.
4) Refrigerated shipping, requires the use of a reefer, and cold storage warehouse, this is very expensive though, and is often used only for food products. A new technique using Cryogenics and liquid CO2 is coming on board though and that may eventually make it cheaper.
What is most likely done with film, is the first option, it gets shipped out with the idea that it will get to the dealer quickly and into the fridge, if it warms up a little it's going to be okay.
Paul Schmidt
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 Originally Posted by Dinesh Care to elaborate? Dalton was by far the most effeminate Bond, compared to the playboy that was Moore, or the mercenary as portrayed by Connery and Craig, or the annoying prick that was Pierce Brosnan. That was a grave error on the part of the casting director.
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 Originally Posted by AgX The british Illford IS engaged into inkjet papers. But under the brand Harman Photo. Practically it's all the same company: Harman Technology Limited. I thought they sold that off to a Japanese outfit when they went through their reorganization. It is possible that they are selling some of the Japanese companies products under the Harman Photo brand though, in the UK. Haven't seen any Harman branded products in Canada, have seen some Ilford branded ones though.
Paul Schmidt
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 Originally Posted by Ektagraphic What do they manufacture over here? IIRC, just consumer C-41 films.
"I only wanted Uncle Vern standing by his new car (a Hudson) on a clear day. I got him and the car. I also got a bit of Aunt Mary's laundry, and Beau Jack, the dog, peeing on a fence, and a row of potted tuberous begonias on the porch and 78 trees and a million pebbles in the driveway and more. It's a generous medium, photography." -- Lee Friedlander -
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 Originally Posted by accozzaglia Well, I'ma pull out the three PKR120 rolls I have in the freezer and shoot them I've looked back through the threads to see what prompted this thought but can't figger it out... Was someone, perhaps, speculating what the odds were that we could persuade Dwayne's to do "just one more" 120 Kodachrome run? I have a couple of rolls left that I'd sure love to shoot!
"I only wanted Uncle Vern standing by his new car (a Hudson) on a clear day. I got him and the car. I also got a bit of Aunt Mary's laundry, and Beau Jack, the dog, peeing on a fence, and a row of potted tuberous begonias on the porch and 78 trees and a million pebbles in the driveway and more. It's a generous medium, photography." -- Lee Friedlander -
Much of the Fuji materials are shipped in master rolls from Japan now. They used to make a broad range of products, but not now. In fact, I believe that they sold off a portion of the factory.
PE
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[QUOTE=Photo Engineer;820823]Kodak's stock dropped from a high in the vicinity of $120 back in the early 90s/QUOTE]
Based upon the historical prices on Y@hoo (that only go back to 1962...), EK reached it's 'historical high' on 2/18/1997 at $65.81, adjusted for splits.
The present day drop seems to have started around July, 1999, with the really precipitous fall starting around July, 2007.
The two high days of trading were 9/25/2003 at 36.6 million shares (closing up) and, interestingly enough, 6/29/2009 at 33.8 million shares, also closing up. So the market certainly doesn't seem to have thought Kodachrome's death was presaging the end.
"I only wanted Uncle Vern standing by his new car (a Hudson) on a clear day. I got him and the car. I also got a bit of Aunt Mary's laundry, and Beau Jack, the dog, peeing on a fence, and a row of potted tuberous begonias on the porch and 78 trees and a million pebbles in the driveway and more. It's a generous medium, photography." -- Lee Friedlander -
 Originally Posted by Dinesh Care to elaborate? Dalton was at a low point for the Bond series, when it was trying to play up to US audiences, with a Bond that was too soft, too Hollywood, and too much like he was gay. Not implying that gay applies to soft or Hollywood, but that's what I felt. Nice to see that the series is back to what Fleming wrote him as, a hard guy who can still look after the ladies.
Now this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to off topic...
Paul Schmidt
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 Originally Posted by Neanderman I've looked back through the threads to see what prompted this thought but can't figger it out... Was someone, perhaps, speculating what the odds were that we could persuade Dwayne's to do "just one more" 120 Kodachrome run? I have a couple of rolls left that I'd sure love to shoot! With the last batch of chemicals at their disposal, a dip-and-dunk final run for 120 would be magnificently helpful.
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