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    Yes, thank you for reminding me. I can stabilize the film with an old stabilizer. It will do the job for both new and old films. I believe my 46 mm 400VC roll is post 2003 though.

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    I am hording Provia 400X. Anybody know how long high speed slide film will last?
    I have it sealed in the freezer, but I assume it won't have the same shelf life as 100 speed film.

    I just shot a roll of Kodak slide film that's been expired for 5 years and sitting at room temperature.
    To my surprise it was absolutely fine.

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    your experience matches mine both for color film and for black and white

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/1...ifference.html

    about halfway through the thread you will see information posted by a appugger named "mr bill"
    he worked for a major portrait company and he and his workmates did all sorts of "destructive testing"
    on color film ( "hot box" ). it was interesting to see that color films are quite robust and they did not degrade
    as one might imagine they would.

    me, personally i only shoot expired film these days, some old, some very old, and while i don't use a densitometer
    (and don't care to use one ) i haven't found much trouble in my expired emulsions. YMMV thought, because
    others in the thread posted their findings ( B/W ) from using a densitometer, and posted #'s but even after they were
    asked what the numbers meant their meanings were never revealed ... so my guess is that "there was a little fog" ...
    and too much for their taste?

    as for your provia ( i have about 300+ sheets at room temperature as well ) it might suffer a little contrast loss? maybe a little speed loss
    and maybe a little color shift ... i'm processing all mine in b/w so i rate it slow ( way less than half box speed )
    and processing it in dilute print developer first and then coffee developer.


    good luck

    john

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    A simple answer to the O.P's question is "not long enough".
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    I recently shot some old Kodak PR-100 220 rolls. I was very surprised that they came out with colors as good as (absolutely no worse than) the Konica (Konica Minolta) not old (frozen when it was still fresh) KN-400 that I also shot. The interesting thing is the PR-100 rolls had been left in my backpack for 2 years unattended. I guess I took the pack out of the freezer and then left it in the backpack totally forgot about it. I actually thought they had practically gone beyond usefulness even for snap shots. They came out beautifully.

    I just looked at the PR-100 box and the expiration date was in 1999. The KN-400 had been frozen since 2006 with the expiration date of 2008. Konica KN-400 is a great film. The old Kodak Pro-100 after all the years in the freezer with 2 years left in the backpack turns out to be as good or better. I believe the films were already expired when I bought them on eBay. I still have a few 5-rool packs. The only hassle to use these films is I have to use Kodak Stabilizer which is no longer available. These films (KN400 and Pro-100) is a solid proof to me that their colors are superior to the digital camera images I got from my 17 mega pixel Canon for dummies. I now use the Canon only when I need to sell something on eBay.

    By the way I processed theses films by myself with my Jobo ATL-2300. I believe the processing is a significant factor that the films came out so great. I have finally figured out how to use the Jobo correctly. I used only 470 ml of Kodak C-41 developer for 2 rolls of 220.

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    there are so many people who equate using ambient temperature stored
    films ( color and black/white ) with a doomsday scenario ...

    its nice to read others personal experiences with expired films.
    because sometimes its not doomsday yet, and its just any other day ...

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    I shot a 35mm roll of old Elite Chrome 100. 10+ yrs expired, unknown storage before I got it. Just a bit of color casrt, but less than what a yellowed Takumar 50/1.4 throws onto an image.

    2 rolls of '87 and '91 Kodachrome 64 and 200 were way out of whack.

    Color neg has to be really abused before it gives.

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