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    just received my Trebla C=41 FilmPac kit

    I bought a Trebla C-41 filmpac kit and the starter. the kit makes enough solution for 475 rolls of film.

    Is there any reason I cannot do some math and calculate how much of each part is required to make small batches?
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    Where on earth did you locate one?
    I searched high and low to no avail.
    PDI has stopped stocking them. A lot of places will have it listed on their websites only to inform you they no longer stock them when you try to give them money.

    What is the break down in fluid ounces for each component?

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    Hi Barry,

    That's exactly how I use it. The sticker with the directions on the outside of the box has the replenishment info.

    I got various syringes at the local farm supply to measure with and use graduated beakers.

    Here are my numbers.

    For 250 ml of Developer, start with about 175ml water, add
    A = 16ml, B = 2.66ml, C = 3.64ml, starter = 2.5ml
    top up graduate to 250ml

    Bleach and fix I mixed up 1 liter each per box instructions that I keep around and replenish per the numbers on the box as I run rolls through.

    Stabilizer I only mix what I need for the day using the box replenishment number to make 250ml.
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    Trebla Film Pac purchase

    Curious as to where you purchased your Film Pac. Was it with this company?:
    http://www.libertyphotoproducts.com/...t,3150,304.htm

    Thanks

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    Sorry..another question about your Film Pac

    The info is very sparse about this kit. What is in the box? What are the quantities and what other chemical(s) is required to start developing C-41 that is NOT included in the kit? Again my thanks...Zj

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    I got my kit from Photographic & Digital Imaging supply in Rochester, NY 800-869-8004. I was helped by Art. Very nice guy and was very helpful.
    The kit has a 3 part developer, a bleach, a fixer and a stalilizer. the only other thing you need is a 32 oz. bottle of Developer starter. the starter was $3.25.

    Mark Thanks for your numbers!!! That helps a bunch. By mixing it up in small batches am I correct that I will not have the oxidation problem and my chemicals going bad as if I were to mix the whole thing at once???
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    Mark, was "Monument Valley Mitten Shadow" developed with this trebla chemistry? That is a terrific image by the way.
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    Thanks about Trebla

    Hi...Thanks for the info about Trebla. I was on the phone with Liberty in San Clemente (they also ship out of Minneapolis and back east too). They sell to anyone apparently and everything is right now in stock.

    The Kit sells for $71.43; item # 20419

    The Starter sells for $3.42; item # 17773

    Happy to have stumbled across your post. I just read through the EK Z131 info and had just about given up when I realized that EK stuff is difficult at best to come across in complete form via Adorama, B&H et. al. I reviewed the info about Tetanol and Arista and became wary of the Bleach/Fix combo question and then I saw your post. This may well be the answer to doing C-41 120/220 in the volumes I do. By the way, I will be using a Jobo CPE-2+ w/lift so hopefully between this and Trebla I might have a winning combination.

    By the way, to determine what small quantities are needed to mix less than full volumes of chemistry, EK's Z131 info around about page 1-12 gives a good example of how to proceed with the math. Near the front too it addresses the questions about how to store partially used chemicals to ward off oxidation. And yes, oxidation will occur if the product(s) are open but it is very controllable. Would that this stuff had the shelf life of Rodinal!

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    OK more Trebla Info...

    I was just on the phone with Liberty. They ship out of their Minneapolis warehouse, there is a $20 hazard shipping charge over and above the ground shipping charge and yes, they will sell to anyone who can buy. You can order via telephone or on-line. The chemistry will develop 475 rolls of 135-24 so you have to figure out what your capacities will be from there.

    Here is the web address for the Trebla FilmPAc:
    http://www.libertyphotoproducts.com/...t,3150,304.htm

    Hope all this rambling helps someone out there!

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    Hi...what are the mL sizes of each bottle? I'm surprised that they would say it will develop 475, 135-24 rolls of film. It seems like a lot especially when Tetanal kits make 5-liters which would be good for about 60 +/- rolls and sells for about $70 at B&H. I have pounding around trying to find spec sheets and volumes on this stuff and NOTHING is listed anywhere! Thanks again...Zj

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