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    Quote Originally Posted by thisismyname09 View Post
    Yeah, its unnecessary if you use the normal kodak bleach. I'm just too poor to buy the real stuff.
    I don't know what you consider expensive or where you live but it looks like for about $60 bucks plus shipping you can get 2x 2.7liters of Kodak's C-41 SM bleach at Liberty.

    http://www.libertyphotoproducts.com/...-27-L,3420.htm

    Just found Sonman. http://www.sonman.com/products/KODAK...n-order-2.html even cheaper at about $41 plus shipping.

    That should be enough to do about 800 rolls if I read the Kodak's instructions right.
    Mark Barendt, Beaverton, OR

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    I have always used a prewet in my Jobo. This has been my practice for years and I get on-aim results, I assure you.

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    Kodak specifies pre-wet for C41, but not E6.

    Seriously, eBay bargain bleach is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberiustibz View Post
    Kodak specifies pre-wet for C41, but not E6.

    Seriously, eBay bargain bleach is the way to go.
    I've been looking for a while but I've been unable to find any.

    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt
    I don't know what you consider expensive or where you live but it looks like for about $60 bucks plus shipping you can get 2x 2.7liters of Kodak's C-41 SM bleach at Liberty.

    http://www.libertyphotoproducts.com/...-27-L,3420.htm

    Just found Sonman. http://www.sonman.com/products/KODAK...n-order-2.html even cheaper at about $41 plus shipping.

    That should be enough to do about 800 rolls if I read the Kodak's instructions right.
    The lowest I've found previously was a little over $100. I seem to be bad at googling. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiberiustibz View Post
    Kodak specifies pre-wet for C41, but not E6.

    Seriously, eBay bargain bleach is the way to go.
    Nicholas,

    See the Kodak pub on this: http://www.kodak.com/global/plugins/...ls/z131_03.pdf

    "Adjustment. Do
    not immerse the film in a warm water pre-soak. Warm-up step is
    done by warming the outside of the tube with hot air or in a
    tempered water bath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Taylor View Post
    Nicholas,

    See the Kodak pub on this: http://www.kodak.com/global/plugins/...ls/z131_03.pdf

    "Adjustment. Do
    not immerse the film in a warm water pre-soak. Warm-up step is
    done by warming the outside of the tube with hot air or in a
    tempered water bath.
    "
    Sorry that must have been the Tetenal C41 sheet I was thinking of. I've always used it.
    --Nicholas Andre

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisismyname09 View Post
    I've been looking for a while but I've been unable to find any.

    The lowest I've found previously was a little over $100. I seem to be bad at googling. Thanks.
    No you are not bad at Googling, don't fool yourself it took a significant amount of time to figure this out.

    The biggest frustration I have with C-41, is not the process; it's the mystery and myths that surround it.

    We end up doing chemical back-flips like you were trying from a simple lack of knowing what our options are.
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    P E: I have used Digibase C41 for a long time. Now im having a big batch of Flexicolor LORR Replenisher developer ill try to match Digibase. First i mix one litre replenisher solution who then is mixed down to tank solution with water and starter. Used in a JOBO for 3:15 6 min bleac (RA) Then C41 RA fix. All wash cycles.

    I have done some densitometer readings. Looks like i add to much water, but following KODAKs advices from their tech pub on it, Can you see out from my added curves whats wrong?

    The density readings are from machbet/x-rite colorscheckers neutral steps.
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    I cannot begin to evaluate this spread sheet. It is totally alien to me in overall format and content. Sorry.

    I'm not sure what the problem is, if any. I don't know if the Digibase results are OK or not for starters, and then by comparison IDK what is wrong with the EK kit.

    What I need is a plot of Density (y axis) vs Log Exposure (x axis) for each process. This will clearly show me dmin, relative speeds and contrast with crossover.

    Thanks.

    PE

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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarendt View Post
    I don't know what you consider expensive or where you live but it looks like for about $60 bucks plus shipping you can get 2x 2.7liters of Kodak's C-41 SM bleach at Liberty.

    http://www.libertyphotoproducts.com/...-27-L,3420.htm

    Just found Sonman. http://www.sonman.com/products/KODAK...n-order-2.html even cheaper at about $41 plus shipping.

    That should be enough to do about 800 rolls if I read the Kodak's instructions right.
    I have purchased from Liberty and can say they are a good place from which to obtain these chemicals.

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