I miss Color EIR film
I have searched for a topic like this and couldn't find anything like it, I apologize if there is something already.
I truly miss color infrared film - I have one more 11 year old expired roll in the freezer and it is grain city. It makes complete sense from an economic standpoint why it was discontinued, but is there any snowball's chance it could ever come back in any form at all? Efke, Rollei and Illford all have come out with BW infrared solutions (some true, some not, but still fantastic and better than nothing). Why would kodak not license the emulsion technology to someone else to create in small batches, is that even possible? Why hasn't anyone else tried to develop anything like it?
I realize there is a lot of fiscal naivety involved in my questions here, but is there any chance?
There is nothing to licence, it's old technology.
What about making up your own colour separation images including a separation for IR by shooting a panchromatic/IR film with different filters? E.g. you could use r,g,b, and IR filters, shoot three or four separate frames, and then combine them as you wish to produce a colour neg or positive. It could be done in a purely analogue way. Since the IR films on the market are really edge-visible, I think I'd be tempted to shoot with g and b filters and use an IR filter for red + IR.
Color EIR is still available...sort of...
Contact Dean Bennici
He buys Aerochrome rolls and cuts them down to 120 size.
The bad news is that the Aerochrome film he cuts down is also discontinued...
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I had the pleasure of shooting one roll of EIR a few years ago. In retrospect, I should have respooled it to three rolls so I could learn a little as I went. I discovered the film is not so great with inorganics, (concrete, steel, etc.) but wonderful with foliage, fabric and flesh. (the three "F"s?) I really should Pick up some of Dean's 120. This film is too good to be gone yet.
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Dean just got one of the last rolls and product is currently available from him.
I wish the Aerochrome wasn't discontinued!!
Helping to save analog photography one exposure at a time
Uh, just thinking out loud here, couldn't we replicate EIR with black and white films plus colour separation filters? For example, take a photo with infrared film, then b/w film with a red filter, then another b/w photo with a green filter. Then use the infrared photo as the red channel, the red photo as the green channel, and the green photo as the blue channel?
I was reading the wiki page on infrared photos and it said this about EIR:
Color infrared transparency films have three sensitized layers that, because of the way the dyes are coupled to these layers, reproduce infrared as red, red as green, and green as blue.
Edit: Someone beat me to it, I just read keithwms post. In theory, I think our ideas should work, but I don't know about in practice.
Last edited by happyjam64; 09-04-2010 at 04:28 PM. Click to view previous post history.
This is brilliant!
Originally Posted by happyjam64
Not to mention, this would allow one to make unique, customized, and funkier EIR-esque color combinations. I mean, the choice to make the IR appear red in EIR is arbitrary, as far as I know. I've always wondered what different color combinations would yield.
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