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    I have not printed colour for a number of years and all my colour is presently printed commercially. For various reasons I prefer Endura for some things and Fuji for others so I use 2 labs. Fuji CA has always been noticably thinner than Kodak Professional papers although about the same thickness as their photofinishing papers such as Edge (which probably no longer exists).
    I'm just curious - are you guys saying that the newest Fuji paper is even thinner or is it just that you are encountering Fuji paper for the first time? If it's even thinner I haven't noticed it in my prints yet and would have to say that if it got much thinner it would be approaching the document papers of old.
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    Well, I know I could not convince Kodak to sell cut sheet paper. Here is the probable reason. They now produce a version for laser printers which requires very short exposure times and a very particular type of reciprocity and latent image keeping. This product gives slightly "off" results when used with a typical enlarger. They therefore don't support 2 product lines for economy.

    OTOH, they wrote off millions in loss last year due to loss of good will. This should tell them something. They also declared a loss this quarter that is about 2x what the analysts expected. So, it appears to me that they are handing the "keys to the kingdom" to Fuji without an argument or a fight.

    I'm getting tired of trying to understand Kodak or Perez. If he wants, he can come on APUG and try to explain his apparent ineptitude with the customers.

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    Not new to Fuji CA as I've had lab prints made on it for years but I haven't printed for myself in a long time so even the long expired Kodak paper I'm using is in fact new to me. I don't know if Type II is thinner than Type C but it is sure thinner than Supra and Endura pro papers from Kodak. Fuji doesn't brand the paper as Type II on the back so I can't tell which ones from labs are Type C and which are Type II. At least Kodak identifies their paper well

    You can still buy Edge, Endura, Supra if you know where to look.

    My local labs are sorry they stopped optically printing and offering same day color film processing. Now I do it myself and they've lost all my business other than emergency film and B&W supplies (can get them all cheaper by mail order if I plan ahead).
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    Just to clarify something here, Type C paper from Kodak was only offered on DW FB paper support and only for the P-122 process.

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    DW FB color prints sound wonderful but I don't know that process.
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    It was 75 F, Develop, Stop, wash, Harden/Fix, wash, Bleach, wash, Fix, wash Stabilize (something like that). It took about 1.5 hours! I have boxes of them here, done up until it was discontinued in the 60s.

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    Wow and here I thought 2min dev, 30sec stop, 2min blix and 3min wash was kind of slow!

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    It was 75 F, Develop, Stop, wash, Harden/Fix, wash, Bleach, wash, Fix, wash Stabilize (something like that). It took about 1.5 hours! I have boxes of them here, done up until it was discontinued in the 60s.

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    Oh dear, the development step for this one was something like 12 minutes or maybe more!

    I could find an old data sheet here somewhere, but reading it makes me dizzy to see how many hours I spent in the DR back then.

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    I have maybe 2 DW fiber color prints that were the first color prints I ever made back around 1973 or '74, if not a little earlier. They still have rich colors and even though the photos weren't anything spectacular, the prints did have an amazing depth. I believe these were on an Agfa paper with Beseler 2-step chemicals. The next prints I have are on Kodak RC.

    I was just buying some b&w paper and disappointed, after not having printed for a long time, to find out that Kodak b&w papers are no longer being produced.

    I did find an unopened box of FineArt Elite which is pretty badly fogged, even to having mottled borders, though the prints i made on it look good. OK, I'm off topic here, but I always try to buy Kodak products, even though I may not do so exclusively.

    I'm just about to get back into printing color and am confused now about which paper and chemicals to buy for home-use machine processing.

    Hopefully, Freestyle will repackage some of the Kodak product. I don't really have time (or dexterity or patience) to cut up a huge roll in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Oh dear, the development step for this one was something like 12 minutes or maybe more!

    I could find an old data sheet here somewhere, but reading it makes me dizzy to see how many hours I spent in the DR back then.

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    There is some cut Endura on eBay at least.
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