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    Quote Originally Posted by 2F/2F View Post
    Not to mention helping to give your neighbors jobs.
    And the chance to have a nice conversation. I enjoy visiting my local shop too, I think I'm one of the few that still buys dark room supplies from him.

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    Sadly there isn't much time for chatting in local photo shops. They're too busy selling digital cameras and printers which is good for them, most of them have transitioned well to modern technologies but this doesn't do much for me. Their film processing is now slow (they wait for enough rolls to come in usually) and poor and their film prices are high. Their paper and chemicals are often expired.

    Portra 400 is $5/roll for 120 or $10/roll for 220 at B&H. Don't buy film in Canada unless you like throwing your money away, it's at least 50% more here, $7.50/roll for 120 or $15/roll for 220 at Henrys.

    Do you need 400 speed? Portra 160 and Ektar 100 are $3.69/roll for 120 at B&H.

    I got a few Pro packs of Fuji Reala 100 for $3.49/roll, 10/2012 dated! That's $17/pro pack while it is $40/pro pack here in Canada, just crazy! More than 100% higher than in the states... Our dollar is higher, distributors take note!
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    I agree AlbertZeroK. I've learned alot and had great conversations with the folks at the camera shop I frequent.

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    One reason I've started liking Ektar is that it not only looks good, but that price is on par with the cheap-o stuff of days past. I can live with quirks and problems if it's half price.

    Also a couple of folks have pushed Ektar to 400. If you need a cheap 400 film and you're not TOO worried about studio-quality portrait-film, try a roll and see if you like it. If not, you haven't wasted more than $3-$4 plus processing. If so you'll save in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markster View Post
    One reason I've started liking Ektar is that it not only looks good, but that price is on par with the cheap-o stuff of days past. I can live with quirks and problems if it's half price.

    Also a couple of folks have pushed Ektar to 400. If you need a cheap 400 film and you're not TOO worried about studio-quality portrait-film, try a roll and see if you like it. If not, you haven't wasted more than $3-$4 plus processing. If so you'll save in the long run.
    My situation is the opposite. Color film is the smallest part of the cost for me. That's because I still can get film relatively inexpensively by mail order, but processing locally has become very expensive. To process and print a 36-exposure roll of C-41 locally costs between $10 and $20, now that so many area labs have closed. I'm about to try Costco. Or maybe mail order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lns View Post
    My situation is the opposite. Color film is the smallest part of the cost for me. That's because I still can get film relatively inexpensively by mail order, but processing locally has become very expensive. To process and print a 36-exposure roll of C-41 locally costs between $10 and $20, now that so many area labs have closed. I'm about to try Costco. Or maybe mail order.

    -Laura
    Same here. Quality E6 and C-41 120 developing suddenly got scarce about a year ago when my local pro lab finally retired its Refreema processors. Local Costcos bailed nearly 2 years ago on cheapie 35mm processing and printing. It's still available but requires longer waits, longer drives, and higher prices for sometimes iffy quality.

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    Process yourself, under $1/roll... Broken record I know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpulley View Post
    Process yourself, under $1/roll... Broken record I know...
    It's looking inevitable, at least for b&w!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hpulley View Post
    Process yourself, under $1/roll... Broken record I know...
    Yeah, I do process black and white myself. But color requires temperature control that seems beyond my capabilities. Most importantly, I am old-fashioned enough to want prints, and I don't want to print color myself. So it works best for me to use a lab for C-41.

    Anyway, Portra 400 is a beautiful film and I love using it. So even at $6 a roll for 35mm, I feel lucky to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgw
    It's looking inevitable, at least for b&w!
    Quote Originally Posted by lns View Post
    Yeah, I do process black and white myself. But color requires temperature control that seems beyond my capabilities. Most importantly, I am old-fashioned enough to want prints, and I don't want to print color myself. So it works best for me to use a lab for C-41.

    Anyway, Portra 400 is a beautiful film and I love using it. So even at $6 a roll for 35mm, I feel lucky to have it.

    -Laura
    This is a thread about Portra so I do mean C-41 at home. The temperature control is easy. I just use a small Rubbermade container as a water bath. I put water in it at about 41C, put the containers of developer and blix in it with a Kodak color thermometer and once the dev hits 39C I put some 39C pre-soak water in the tank for one minute, then dump, dev in for 3:30, 3 inversions every :30, put the tank in the water bath while not inverting; at 3:30 dev out (pour back in its bottle, re-used with JOBO/Tetenal/Unicolor), blix 6:30 again 3 inversions every :30 putting the tank back in the bath when not being inverted; at 6:30 (total 10:00) blix out (again save for re-use); then three (5/20/40 inverts) invert and dump washes at 34-39C; then stabilizer, invert for :15 then sit at room temp for 1:30. Hang and dry! I just take water from the tap for 41C. Takes 20 minutes or so tops.

    All C-41 film takes the same time and temperature so in many ways it is simpler than B&W.

    RA-4 color printing can be done at home too. Dichroic head enlarger, Fuji cut or Kodak roll paper, chems.
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