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    Frankly, for home use, C-41 developer is so cheap it's not worth the hassle to consider replenishing it, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelbsc View Post
    They are the same thing. As the developer becomes depleted you pour out part and replenish it with fresh.

    The problem is that this only works right if you have a high volume line running. Therefore all the confusion over the years about using the chemicals "one shot" rather than replenished.

    The spreadsheet links I posted are *NOT* for replenished use.

    The "starter" is what makes the "brand new" developer appear that it has been used and replenished.
    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpreston View Post
    Thanks for the info.
    You have to notice that chemicals like the 1L kits sold by Freeystyle are not designed to be replenished, so there is no "starter" component either. They're just mixed up straight out of the bottle.

    It is the bulk chemicals that have a starter component.

    If you are familiar with cooking think of donuts. They clean the pots once a week, and the first few batches of donuts in perfectly clean oil are terrible. After that they change about 25% of the oil daily and the donuts are always good. Same with bulk film chemicals, and the starter fixes it for the first batches. The small kits are already balanced for it.
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    Recently ordered some C-41 chems from Pakor.com. Not a great experience so far. I asked the customer service rep how much shipping would be for the 5gal developer/replenisher, 25 gal fixer, and a bottle of developer starter. He said it shouldn't be too much, but couldn't give me a figure. I finally received the developer and starter (the fixer was B/O and didn't ship) and the shipping was almost 1.5 times the cost of the products!!! When the fixer comes in I'm sure I'll get charged the ridiculous shipping fee again.

    So, buyer beware, if you order from Pakor, then be ready for some exorbitant shipping fees. You might want to tell them not to ship a partial order as well so you don't have to pay double-exorbitant fees.

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    Calumet Photo's web site lists the Jobo Tetenal C-41 kit, but says to call for availability. The price lists at $20.99 and their shipping estimator gave me $12.51.

    Jobo C-41 Press Kit (1 Liter)
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    Just found a Central Ohio camera shop that is going to send me prices for bulk Kodak C-41 chemicals. Apparently they order them for OSU and are willing to get them for me as well. I'll post details when I get them.

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    My local contact is telling me that the Flexicolor bleach has been discontinued. Anyone know how the Ektacolor products compare?

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    OK gang, here's a bit of an update on C-41 1 Liter kits.

    This 1 liter kit from Photographer's Formulary http://stores.photoformulary.com/Detail.bok?no=965 claims to be Flexicolor Developer, but it is actually the whole shebang. It is Developer, Bleach, Fixer, Stabilizer, everything. I just opened the box this morning.

    I found it in this thread: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum40/6...s-kodak-6.html

    Tony-S pointed it out here: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum40/6...s-kodak-6.html

    Over the next few posts several people mentioned that it was listed on the PF website as Developer only, and PE then also confirmed that PF has it listed wrong on their website. It is a true "Flexicolor 1L Kit" although it is home made by them instead of being package by Kodak.

    http://www.apug.org/forums/viewpost.php?p=1242435

    I just got mine today, and it looks good. Now, since I've never processed C-41 before, I can't say how well it works. But I dare say that if it satisfies PE, then any poor results will probably be my error instead of a bad kit.

    So maybe a 1L kit is back on the market.
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    OK, Photographer's Formulary has updated their description to indicate that this is a complete kit.

    http://stores.photoformulary.com/-st...per/Detail.bok
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    For all you Canadians, the Flexicolor SM chemicals are available from www.photocentral.ca, send them an email, see their website.
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