Looking for a FB SW VC paper recommendation
I'm looking for a fiber based single weight variable contrast paper recommendation. I'm about done with my box of Ilford MGIV. I like the results, but I'd like to experience the difference of split contrast printing with another paper. This time around, I'd like it to be single weight, so there's a greater probability of favorable results in my glazing dryer. Also, sometime during the duration of this box, I might experiment with making handmade photo books, and I'd like the prints to be as thin as possible so when I mount it to *whatever* it won't look like a chunk of plywood glued to a sheet. I'll also be playing with print waxing during the end of this MG IV box and at least the beginning of the next box.
I'll want a glossy paper. I've read good things in researching previous apug vc threads, I've read good things about both Kodak Polymax and Agfa MC papers, but I can't find a vendor that seems to stock single weight.
If someone has a good paper to recommend, I'd also like to know where I can find it. I've ideally like to buy from an apug sponsor, if possible.
Let the recommendations begin!
Agfa's papers are the exact opposite of single weight. I think it might be the heaviest common paper out there. To the best of my knowledge it's only available in one weight.
single wt paper is almost a thing of the past. The only single wt fiber I am currently aware of is Azo. It is a graded paper that is available from MichaelandPaula.com. But like the old saying, " I thought I made a misstake once but I was wrong."
kATE- Now your search begins. I did extensive testing on almost ALL VC papers a while back. Truth be told-none of them are bad. You really need to do what I did and just bite the bullet; spend the time and money to do a proper investigation for the look you want. Some papers like AGFA are naturally warmer right out of the box. You will never go wrong with a paper like oriental. Kodak Polymax is FAR underated by most and I find it great for delicate subjects that other papers can't touch. Toning for me is a big issue. Ilford hardly tones at all.
It is still excellant paper.
As far as paper weight goes; Kodak used to make a single weight paper in VC. I think its gone now. You could call around to the big stores and see if they have any left. I'm not even sure if Kodak makes any single weight papers at all but CALL them to be sure. AZO is a single weight paper but is only available in grade2 and 3. I would also try to contavt some of the european mfg. to see what they make. Sometimes they use a weight BETWEEN a single and double weight.
You have to at least try the Bergger and Forte papers. The poly V by Forte and the VCNB by Bergger are great papers.Both cold tone. Ditto for their Polywarmtone+ and the VCCB by Bergger; also warmtone.
This can be alot of fun and quite the adventure. Good luck and I hope you will report back to us after you are fnished searching.
P>S-I still have a large box of Ilford MGIV available in the for sale section if you decide to plod on with that paper.
I use Kodak Poymax FB SW almost exclusively. It is a wonderful paper that handles well and has the bonus of costing less than DW papers. Sadly, I've heard that it is going to be discontinued. A D@mned shame if you ask me.
That is called grain. It is supposed to be there.
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Originally Posted by lee
yeah. Azo from M&P is the other box of paper in my drawer. I use it for contacts, but at the moment (at least until I can afford an Azo head for my enlarger) I'm looking for a good VC sw paper.
This is the only place that I know of that still sells Kodak's sw Polymax. I've never used it... but I have been tempted to.
I've just checked Kodak's site and found no reference to their discontinuance of Polymax Fine Art SW paper. It is a very nice paper to be sure. If you can find some, grab it and have some fun.
Apart from Azo, soon I hear, Kodak will offer ZERO FB papers.
Not only that, and again apart from Azo, Kodak offers ZERO
graded papers. Kodak's interest is in machine processing.
So, if the group RC VC is at the top of your top ten,
Kodak is a place to shop.
Surfing the WWW I've seen a very few SW and even lighter
weight FB papers offered. I'd like once again to use SW and see
some 5x7, SW and DW, available. Perhaps JandC could be induced
to stock a few. Perhaps I should offer to underwrite? Dan
I believe Kodak Polymax is the only single-weight fiber-based paper left. I use it for my contact sheets. If it is discontinued (as rumors have it) then the only alternative to using double-weight premium paper for contacts will be RC paper, which I've done, but don't like.
Adorama used to package a VC single-weight paper under their own name (it was manufactured by God-knows who) that I used for some years, but they stopped carrying it.