Patrick - the Kertesz comment is rather famous. It was related to him being offered a one-man show at at major NYC museum, which he refused
because they had shown Avedon first, whom he termed an "advertising photographer" and called a "zero". You might want to check some
Kertesz bio. He had absolute contempt for Avedon's photog. I just find his work calculated, predictable, and obnoxiously prevelant, even though at this point in history it should be moth-eaten. I feel the same way about Warhol, and about the basic current mass invasion of instant
"gotcha" advertising-style photography. For all I know Avedon could have been a real nice guy. But his marketing personna certainly made
him look like a jerk - wearing out their sitters until they were exhausted and then tripping the shutter in an off moment and calling this
"revealing their inner soul" - and then getting another batch of sitters to fall for the same trick! He must have been a great salesman!
But damn ugly prints indeed.
Fatso & kindred spirits: Grain is one thing, beautiful grain another. I gave up on that line of thinking when Agfachrome 1000 was discontinued.
Talk about lovely grain! It was avail in 120 film too. But at a certain level of magnification, grain becomes mush, and then you have to back
way off to view things coherently. Now people just hit the pseudo-grain simulation button, fingerprint & lint app, sratchmark app, catbarf app,
Avedon should have stayed in neurotic NYC with his fashionista friends. His American West series was utterly corny and had no affinity for his subject matter, which he treated like just another advertising commodity. I completely agree with Kertesz in classifying him as a Zero. Smart-yes, but in gaming the system.
It's nice to see that you have brought your charming personality over from the L.F.F.
Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?
That comment of Kertesz, if true, would make me wonder if his attitude wasn't a large factor in his being overlooked for so many years. I do recall thinking he had a bit of a chip on his shoulder after seeing an interview a few years ago. We do know that he wasn't "accepted" by the big editors when he emigrated to the US and it curtailed his career, which begs the question, why? Maybe we have that answer.