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    Wow, well, this guy certainly did like his cameras, too bad I never got to meet him when he was alive.
    Went round there on Monday night to have a look, and besides all the trays and tongs and books and easels and such, the three main items were:
    -Meopta Opemus iii B+W Condenser enlarger, with holders for 6x6 (now that I've unpacked it, it seems to be missing the lamp and pole, I'll have to go back to look for it methinks)
    -LPL C6700 colour enlarger (only has holders for 135 by the looks)
    -Jobolift CPE2 and two drums, 2830 and 2840.

    By the looks of things, he loved his slides, boxes of them in her shed (which she kept of course). And a book on Cibachrome and a 'cibachrome processing drum' (looks like it takes up to 8x10 taco-style). Too bad there was no paper nor chemicals, I know there's a lot of love around here for Ciba. I'll have to see if she's got any Ciba prints I can view, I've only read about them, never seen them in person (maybe I have but didn't know it).
    The only chemical was a 2-bottle kit of 'kodak sepia toner', does anyone know if that stuff expires?
    Actually, I'm most excited by the Jobo, it can do up to 16x20", and I've always wanted to try paper pinhole negatives...
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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    Paper negs? Bugger that; with a Jobo you can print RA4 without exposing yourself to the chemicals! And you can (much more) reliably and quickly process all your film, including colour. A free Jobo is a real score, even if it's only the little one.

    Once you get to processing 6+ rolls at a time and not having to do all the agitation (especially while washing!) by hand, you will wonder how you ever lived before.

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    great score!
    Forget about the meopta - the LPL 6700 is one of the better enlargers around and will be MUCH easier (and way more fun) to use then the meopta...
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    Thanks for the encouragement guys.
    That Jobo is the 'small one'? Wow, I'd hate to see how big a 'big one' is. (OK, I saw on the catalogue one that does 20x24", which is bigger than I have).
    RA4 would be nice, for that I'd need to have a really light-tight darkroom though, not sure how this is all going to work (it's either black out the skylight and around the door in the bathroom, or build something in the roof cavity). I figured at least with B+W I can get away with a bit of starlight from the skylight if I do enlarging in the dead of night (nah, maybe I should black it out anyway).

    And one thing I've never known the answer to, can you do B+W enlargements with a colour enlarger? If I turn all the lights on so that it's shooting pure white then I suppose the contrast filters will still work the same. Oh yeah, there was also two sets of Ilfospeed Multigrade II filters, one in 9x9cm gels, one in circular holders, both 0-5 in half-steps.
    I'll only stick with the LPL if I can get it to work up to 6x6, otherwise I'll have to just use both. I'm definitely going to start on B+W, at least I remember some of that from highschool, never done a colour before...
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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    Printing BW with a color head can be easier then fumbling around with filters, you can make minute adjustment instead of 1/2 grade increments and you can use the yellow to cancel out the magenta for even finer adjustment. It makes split filter printing much easier, and saved a whole lot of time...
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    You certainly can do B&W with a colour enlarger; you use the built-in colour filters to do contrast control, no need for separate gels. More magenta = higher contrast. The only drawback is that a grade change (if you move just one knob) will also change your exposure. All that can be calibrated out though with a spot of effort (an enlargement meter, f/stop timer and densitometer). I find it's easier to tweak the knobs on a colour enlarger than to swap filters without bumping anything, so a colour enlarger is actually easier for split-grade. Dichroic glass filters in colour enlargers also do not fade (they are thin metal-oxide coatings that filter using destructive interference), unlike gel multigrade filters (organic dyes in resin).

    The CPA2/CPP2 are the bigger processors, about 1m long. They can take the 3xxx Expert drums, which are especially nice for sheet film and huge prints.

    Black your skylight out and print at night, you'll be fine for colour I'm sure. Even if you don't get to RA4, you can at least do your own C41 and E6 on the cheap now and print them hybrid.

    Your LPL will do 6x7 if it's the enlarger I think it is - I used to have a C7700 which is very similar. You can get an adjustable glass universal carrier for it.

    You really need to come along to one of our AFDUG film-nerd pub-nights. There are a few of us that can demo colour printing for you.
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    Yep, I definitely need to get to one of those nights, I'm getting the emails but can't reply to them directly, so I'll just rock up one day whenever (doesn't look like it's happening until next year though). If it stays at a city-south pub I'd be happy, I live in Clarence Park so it's walking (just) distance (the joys of being on P Plates, can't have a beer and drive home).

    Meanwhile, I've checked the enlarger manual, and it says max size is 6x7, which is good (and also says it takes same holders as the 7700). But no film carrier that size, only 135 and slide (although the Meopta has a 135 and two 6x6, no idea why). There's some on fleabay for $100 shipped, but i'm in no hurry, I'll just wait for one to show up cheap.

    Got a roll of 135 Provia 100F back from Atkins last night, I spent the night just sliding them into the neg holder and projecting them onto the baseboard, already so much more fun than scanning (too bad I still have to scan them to make prints). Also tried out my various LTM lenses for fun, the 21/4 skopar won't focus but the 90/3.5 Apo-Lanthar looks good, I'll probably just stay with the 50/2.8 el-nikkor that was already mounted though (Until I get a 6x6 neg holder, then I may need to upsize).

    Looks like it'll be a trip past LP on the way home, time to get some B+W paper chemicals and start playing on the weekend...
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

    f/64 and be there.

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