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    I find that what FrankB said is the gospel - not getting the dust there in the first place is key - and its amazig how much can happen betweenthe film sleeve and the enlarger! I go a little CSI-proof on my workspace (especially with my temporary darkroom conditions its doubly important). Everything gets a wipe down right prior to the session with a damp cloth - any surface that is near my "process", and neg carriers, parts of the nelarger, etc get the ilford orange cloth.

    Then again I suspect you already know this... so sorry about preaching to the choir.
    As far as the neg itself, I have had pretty good luck with touching - not wiping(!) - on, again, the orange antistatic cloth (keeping a very close eye on the clenliness of the cloth of course). It has worked rather well for me - but I am very curious to try the sticky roller - sounds like a great idea!

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    One thought - I read somewhere that dust in the darkroom is not necessarily a problem. It's dust in the air in the darkroom that is a problem.

    I'd suggest damp dusting a few hours before a session rather than just before a session to give any dust that does manage to get airborne a chance to settle.

    Then again, if what you're doing works for you then keep doing it!
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    i use double sided glass neg holders - and used to have a bit of a prob with dust ... until I started to use an air filter with a ioniser (or de-ioniser, I cant remember which is correct!) - it seems to make the dust fall out of the air. I make sure I dont clean less than 2 hours before using the edarkroom as the disturbed dust seems to make the problem worse, and as frank says, I wipe down the enlarger bench with a damp cloth 1 x per week. I rarely have to use my spotone retouchjing kit any longer.

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    I'm with the double glass carrier group. I use the light box and a loupe to inspect the neg before printing. If I miss any dust then it shows up on the test print, so I get a second chance to deal with it.
    If you are able to pin a sheet of plastic pvc sheet in the darkroom, say behind the enlarger, and give it a brisk rub with a dry cloth, you will find all air borne dust will quickly stick to it. It can then be wiped off with a damp cloth and disposed off.
    Regards Dave.

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    I use the old, "hang the film and get out of the darkroom ASAP until its dry" method, although the continually running air cleaner sounds worth investigating.

    I'm also thinking of building a drying cabinet using a small metal locker with a small fan at the bottom pumping air in through a small furnace filter.

    I also have a very small air compressor that pushes the air through a filter that I use (at a very low setting) to clean my negs before printing.

    The post about using the sticky roller thing sounds interesting, but I'd be afraid the thing would leave a chemical residue on my negatives that would eventually degrade them.


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    I have set up my darkroom as much as a clean room as possible. In order to get into the darkroom you have to first pass through the archive room, this is a fire resistant room where I store my negs, prints and gear. The doors in and out are fire rated doors and have a gasket that creates a pretty air tight seal, it also makes the archive room light tight as well, so i could leave the darkroom door open if I liked, or just use the archive room as an "lightlock" room so people can enter the darkroom at any time. The room is ventilated with allergen rated air filters, and in the room a hospital grade air cleaner made by IQ Air runs constantly, it's a 180 sq foot room with a 900 sq foot rated air cleaner, so it changes the air very regularly. It has additional gas removal filters to absorb any fixer vapors that may come from the darkroom as well as any VOC's in the air.

    You then pass through another set of gasketed fire doors to enter the darkroom. This 180 sq foot room also has an IQ Air cleaner with gas filters going and it's vented air is also filtered. I vacuum both rooms at least every other day. For MF negs I usually pass them through the orange Ilford cloth, it tends to do a very good job but one must be very careful about keeping it clean. For LF negs I have a Pro-Co dust stat. It's a charged anti static wand with a power supply. I use glass carriers so dust has 6 surfaces that it can cling to, and my wet negs just hang in the room to dry, hence all the precautions.

    As little if any dusty air is allowed into the darkroom, the main source of any dust is me. I tend to wear cotton in the darkroom, jeans, t shirt, etc. and the clothes themselves create dust and lint. I have given thought to wearing clothes made of a synthetic but that's going too far and I think I have already been pretty thorough. With all of my precautions though, I still have to spot prints, but far less than I used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Early Riser
    the main source of any dust is me. I tend to wear cotton in the darkroom, jeans, t shirt, etc. and the clothes themselves create dust and lint. I have given thought to wearing clothes made of a synthetic but that's going too far and I think I have already been pretty thorough. With all of my precautions though, I still have to spot prints, but far less than I used to.
    We're heading back towards printing in the nude again

    David.

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    I like that idea. Get naked in the dark and see what develops.
    DIGITAL IS FOR THOSE AFRAID OF THE DARK.

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    I wipe my negs with Pec-Pads (from Photographic Solutions) then give a blast of air.

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    if you print in the nude guys be careful with the Farmers Reducer Could cause problems

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