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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Hoskinson
    Since you liked the results you were getting with Neutol WA,
    I strongly second Lachlan's recommendation for Ilford - ID 78.
    Its easy and inexpensive to mix it yourself, it works great, and
    it has a long working life.

    http://www.apug.org/forums/article.php?a=23
    And what is the difference twixt the 62 and 78? The
    amount of bromide. Simple as that; 2 vs 4.5 grams.
    A usual recommendation; add bromide for warmth.
    Conversely, BZT to chill.

    Mix up the 62 minus all bromide. Some papers don't
    need any and without take shorter exposures and develop
    faster. Then tone to one's taste by addition from a bottle of
    bromide or BZT. I've now a bottle of 2% bromide from which
    I draw. No BZT though. Dan

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    Alexis,

    Not sure if you are based in the UK but I just bought some Neutol WA at Silverprint near Waterloo. Not 100% sure but aren't Gavert the chemistry manufactuing arm of the now defunct Agfa Photo continuing to manufacture Neutol WA ?

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    Arthur,

    I'm in the states now, although I was in Paris for 3 years recently. You might be right about Gavert...I just haven't seen anyone selling it here. Maybe I need to check other places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexis Neel
    Arthur,

    I'm in the states now, although I was in Paris for 3 years recently. You might be right about Gavert...I just haven't seen anyone selling it here. Maybe I need to check other places.
    Alex,

    You may wabt to try the Camera Barn in Duluth. They may have some Agfa products.
    Don Bryant

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    Thanks Don.

    Alexis

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    Alexis,

    if you mix you might consider this receipe

    his is a modified formula for Defender 55-D Portrait.

    To make 4 liters stock solution:

    Water (125f) 2 liters
    Metol 10 grams
    Sodium Sulfilte Anhy 150 grams
    Potassium Carbinate Anhy 200 grams
    Potassium Bromide 100 grams*
    Water to make 4 liters

    *The liberal use of Ptassium bromide is encourged, even in excess of the formula.


    Dilute 1 part stock, 2 parts water. Adjust exposure to produce desired print density when developed for 2 minutes at 68F. Stock formula produces warm blacks without a noticeable "brown" look.

    The formula is based on the Defender 55-D Portait developer and 'fiddled' with to produce maximum warm tones with the Ilford WT fiber paper.

    I have used this formula for several years now and it does not produce the Dektol green look on the Ilfrod WT paper.

    enjoy,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur A
    Not sure if you are based in the UK but I just bought some Neutol WA at Silverprint near Waterloo.
    Since Silverprint's Web site indicates those chemicals are manufactured by A&O, which picked up manufacturing from Agfaphoto, it would be very interesting if you could tell us exactly what the label says on your Neutol WA. Thanks in advance.

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    Another vote for the new Ilford / Harman Warmtone soup. Works quite slowly but a really nice result.
    The destination is important, but so is the journey

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    Thanks Lee. Will try.

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    I use LPD.



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