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    Beseler Vs nikkor

    I have a beseler 67 enlarger with a 50 3.5 lens and an thinking about getting a nikkor lens.
    I have some questions.
    how good is the beseler lens?
    How much would be a nikkor 50 2.8 lens canadian
    How better is the nikkor? i just got a 50 1.8 for my canon to use alsongside with the zoom. i find it sharper, more contrasty, and better colors and a lot faster than the zoom:5.6
    Would i have a lot better prints from it? the one i use now is fine but i might want better.
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    There is not a lot of difference between enlarging lenses, as long as you get a 6-element lens. On the other hand, 4-element lenses are more on the budget-side of things. I don't know what category your current lens belongs to, but the nikkor 2.8/50 is an excellent 6-element lens and highly recommendable.
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    There are a different types of Beseler lenses. The 'Color Beselar' (I think they were called) were better than the other Beselers that I've seen, but I think that if you get a El-Nikkor that is the 6 element variety you will get better results. There are 4 element and 6 element El-Nikkors as far as I know, and the 6 element lenses are the better of the two. I'm not overly knowledgable about these, but I think that all of this is correct.

    For 35mm look for a 50mm lens, and for medium format look for the 80mm. You should be able to find these fairly inexpensively.

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    The EL-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 is a six element lens. I've used them for 35 years with complete satisfaction. The EL-Nikkor 50mm f/4 is a nice four element lens. I consider the f/2.8 worth the extra money for its performance and ease of focusing. I've encountered off-brand and even kit lenses on good enlargers that were poor, and others that could produce good images when stopped down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Jones
    The EL-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 is a six element lens. I've used them for 35 years with complete satisfaction. The EL-Nikkor 50mm f/4 is a nice four element lens. I consider the f/2.8 worth the extra money for its performance and ease of focusing. I've encountered off-brand and even kit lenses on good enlargers that were poor, and others that could produce good images when stopped down.
    I have a 4-element 50mm F4 EL-Nikkor, and that's good for general use. Mine was almost brand new that I paid very minimum at an online auction.

    In smaller sized prints up to 8x10", the difference between the F4 and the F2.8 models hardly matters.

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    That's easy; Beseler lens, junk, El Nikkor excellent. I had a Beseler lens when I got a Beseler enlarger three plus decades ago as I was moving up. The lens was crap and the pictures were crap. I bought an El Nikkor and WOW the prints came out sharp and nice. Moral of the story, You get what you pay for and you pay for what you get.

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    There are some more modern Beseler 50/2.8 enlarging lenses out there that are rebadged Rodenstock Rodagon APO lenses. Maybe keep an eye out for one.

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    Shameless plug.

    I've got a 50/2.8 El-Nikkor in the classifieds right now.

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    I concur with all the above posts in praise of the 50/2.8 El-Nikkor. It is an excellent lens and worth every penny I paid for it.

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    With current give away prices, the 6 element f2.8 would be fine. I personally own a 4 element f4 El-Nikkor that has made great 16x20 prints sharp to the edge from 35mm negatives. At one time I was thinking about getting the 6-element lens, but I got a hasselblad instead :>).

    Now I wish I had bought the hasselblad 40 years ago and saved half a lifetime trying to get 35mm to do the job. I would have saved a ton of money on cameras that are now worth little and fill up a good part of a closet.

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