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    How would you treat this printing problem?

    Hi folks, I am looking for some advice from the expert printers that frequent this great resource APUG. I am playing with this print and can get it about how I want it but I still can't get any detail in the clouds without making the sky way to dark or making obvious unnatural looking burns. Is it doable in a way that I am not familiar with (hopefully) or am I out of luck. I am split printing with 00 and 5 filters and burning sky in a lot(00). My problem is the blown clouds that I can't recover in a natural looking way. Any suggestions? Please forgive the poor scan, but I think you can understand what I am talking about.
    I am grateful for any help!
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    Erik
    Last edited by Erik L; 10-30-2008 at 07:27 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    when you do make the sky unnaturally dark with the burning is there detail in the clouds then? Maybe that there is no detail in the neg to bring out.
    "Why is there always a better way?"

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    Yeah Bob, I can get detail in the clouds but not in a convincing manner. It's either a way too dark sky or if I try to burn just the clouds it looks really obvious. It could be my poor technique in burning but I can't make it look good to my eyes.
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    Not being an expert printer by any means I can only offer a suggestion.

    You might explore dodging the sky in your 00 exposure and then burning with the grade 5. Just how much I would not offer a suggestion but it is worth an exploratory test.

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    Try burning in with the 5 filter and use a very small hole in your burning card. You don't want any spill into the sky. Burn just enough to start getting detail in the clouds and no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Osgood View Post
    You might explore dodging the sky in your 00 exposure and then burning with the grade 5.
    Excuse me, I meant to say CLOUDS not sky.

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    Thanks guys, I wouldn't have thought to use the 5 filter to burn the clouds, I'll give it a shot and see what happens
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    have you considered flashing the paper first?
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    Gay, Thanks - I have not done any flashing. I guess I have to learn how now

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    make a mask. scan the photo or use a smaller print if you have one... cut out the clouds and burn them in with it.. just enough to make a difference.

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