I'm just in the process of building my own darkroom, and i'm looking for an enlarger and this is one that i have found
so firstly i'm assuming that the enlarger is the c7700 MX. As the title on ebay says only c770. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...id=p2759.l1259
But i was wondering what people's experiences are of this enlarger and is it worth buying and also is it easy to find lens to fit it or will 80mm be big enough if i want to print 6x7 neagtives say. I'm just a bit confused as i don't really understand this enlarger stuff as i just use the ones at school for 35mm and don't have to mess around with lens etc.
Thanks for any replies Shakey.
Hi Shakey. I have a similar C7700 enlarger. It is very sturdy and yes 80mm is OK for MF negatives. I live in Kenilworth and you can have a look at it if you want.
Just had a reply and it turns out it is an LPL C770 PRO but nothing comes up when i search for it ebay.
The picture looks almost identical to my c7700, apart from the sticker on the top right of the enlarger. Can't help you with the c770 bit. This looks like a bargain.
You'd be OK with this enlarger, I have one myself (C7700 colour) and it's a good solid piece of kit. Looks like the colour head, but that's fine for b+w although it could be brighter. A bargain at the current bid - good luck!
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LPL c7700 vs DE VERE 504 VARICON CONDENSER BENCH ENLARGER
Ok just come upon this De Vere 504 and i'm having second thoughts of which one to go for, just wondering what people's views were of the De Vere 504.
Shakey, as it happens I currently have a DeVere 504, which is my main enlarger. I also have a C7700 colour enlarger virtually identical to what you you are thinking about purchasing, sitting in my darkroom as well.
Firstly, the DeVere 504 is an unbelievable enlarger, possibly one of the top three or four ever made, usually the price they command reflects this. In short, it is close to enlarger heaven.
I would suggest the LPL is the better deal for yourself. Firstly it has two lens, which is basically all you require with it. There is a glass universal carrier, plus two of the 5 neg carriers available for it.
However the accessories are fabulous, the Jobo Varioformat easel is a wonderful easel, especially coupled with the Variocopy frame. The Componon S lens is excellent, I have and use the same myself.
In short you are ready to literally place all the stuff in your darkroom then start enlarging, nothing else to purchase, pretty much a perfect purchase.
There appears to be one accessory missing, the fine focus knob isn't fitted, this was possibly the only accessory that should have been fitted from the factory, to make it a near perfect enlarger.
The De Veres were the workhorse of the professional labs and were built accordingly - i.e. very solid and made to last. Being designed to take up to 5x4" negatives they are also large and heavy and are difficult for one person to move on their own... There are a few on ebay.co.uk - but be aware that they typically go for 200-400 quid even these days (but with four on the auction site at the same time, one may turn out to be a bargain - who knows!). The one you mention does not come with 6x7cm or 5x4" negative carriers which may be a problem (or not, depending on what you want it for - spares are available). Also, being a condenser type you will need a set of multigrade filters if using VC paper.
The LPL is a good enlarger too and will arguably be a better bargain if it sells for under 100 beer tokens. The LPL will only go up to 6x7cm but if that is as large as you intend to go then that is fine. Add some dishes, a safelight and chemicals and you are pretty much ready to go.
Good luck, Bob.
Last edited by Bob F.; 06-23-2008 at 04:51 AM. Click to view previous post history.
Yer i think your right the de vere 504, would take nearly the rest of my budget to get it and then i would have to travel quite a way to actually pick it up.
You mentioned the focus knob isn't fitted, does anyone know where i can find one of these? And is it still fine to use without it? Sorry if i sound so naive i never had to sort out enlargers before just gone in the school darkroom and printed.
Thanks for everyone help, Shakey
The fine focus control is a nicety I've been able to live quite happily without, given the cost of a new one! The DeVere is undoubtedly the Rolls-Royce of enlargers, but they're big and heavy and unless you envisage moving to large format in the future I'm sure you'll be well catered for by the LPL. The best feature of the DeVere is the baseboard level focus controls - you need to be a bit of a contortionist making big prints with the LPL unless you get a Paterson "Major" focus finder so you can get your head a bit nearer the focus knob!
Originally Posted by Shakey