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    PH212/150W or PH213/250W Bulb?

    I spent an hour or so setting everything up, managed to make one test strip when my enlarger bulb finally gave up the ghost.

    I use an Omega D2 with medium condenser mostly, sometimes the 4x5 condenser. The bulb that i've been using (for 6+ years) is a PH212.

    I do print 35mm with this setup, but with the medium condenser and a 75mm lens. My times are longer. Generally my times are longer (I don't mind this usually).

    Stupid question, should I spring for the 213? I read someone that it's rated for 3 hours (3 hours!?) whereas the 212 is 100 hours.

    Anyone use a 213? Bad idea? Too hot? Too bright?

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    Not sure, but you might end up with really short exposure times limiting your ability to dodge/burn effectively. My d5xl uses a 75w for normal printing but I sometimes put
    in a 300w for contact printing on slow papers, the housing gets hot with times over 45 seconds with the 300, cool to the touch with the 75. I'd stick to what is recommended
    on the condenser housings nameplate if it is noted. I don't know what's up with that 3 hour rating, seems kind of low but what do I know
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    You know, that is good advice. And I do agree, 3 hours seems wrong and is probably an error on the particular website I saw.
    My nameplate recommends a PH211/75W. I think I'll just get what i've been using (PH212).

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    Ended up with another PH212 as that is what i've been using. The Omega DII head has a plaque on it which recommends the usage of a PH211. I like the extra light as my times are generally long.

    I bought the original bulb with the enlarger, 8+ years ago? It was used when I bought it.. To think of all the prints that came out of it.. I threw the enlarger in the back of a pickup truck and drove it home, years later I drove it down the east coast. Some bulb!

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    My Omega Super Chromega D came with a 250W bulb, but it has a cooling fan and a voltage controller.

    Steve
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    Not sure if you referring to a post I made, but 3.5 hours is indeed the life of the 213 bulb. Most likely the 212 also. I even used to have a timer/chronograph wired into the bulb that kept track of the time, since I was printing series and if the bulb was getting close to half way age, I'd change it out so as to keep the time and contrast I'd decided on as accurate as possible. (you lose about 1 grade of contrast and about a stop of speed between a just gone out bulb and a new one). Anyway, the life is about 3.5 hours, and makes sense considering all the on and off the bulb is "exposed" to (pun intended). If you were to keep the bulb on continuously, you'd get about that 100 hours, but the on and off, especially when doing quickly between burns, the life expectancy drops considerably.

    Hope that helps.

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    Actually no, I had seen it on a website and figured since they listed the 211 as having a life of 100 hours it must be a mistake but what you say does make a lot of sense.

    As the bulb 'goes', you do notice a difference in the prints?
    I've noticed for a while that mine have needed more contrast. I had no idea! Then one day I was printing and saw the light 'flicker', which it never did before. I had a weird feeling and thought hey it's going to pop. It did, with the next exposure.

    Thanks for that!



    Quote Originally Posted by jfish View Post
    Not sure if you referring to a post I made, but 3.5 hours is indeed the life of the 213 bulb. Most likely the 212 also. I even used to have a timer/chronograph wired into the bulb that kept track of the time, since I was printing series and if the bulb was getting close to half way age, I'd change it out so as to keep the time and contrast I'd decided on as accurate as possible. (you lose about 1 grade of contrast and about a stop of speed between a just gone out bulb and a new one). Anyway, the life is about 3.5 hours, and makes sense considering all the on and off the bulb is "exposed" to (pun intended). If you were to keep the bulb on continuously, you'd get about that 100 hours, but the on and off, especially when doing quickly between burns, the life expectancy drops considerably.

    Hope that helps.

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    I'd use the recommended lamp myself, and live with the long exposure times. The lamphouse is designed to dissipate the heat generated by the recommended lamp size. Running it with a higher wattage lamp means more heat that the lamp house cannot dissipate as efficiently. More heat = shorter lamp life. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip P. Dimor View Post
    Actually no, I had seen it on a website and figured since they listed the 211 as having a life of 100 hours it must be a mistake but what you say does make a lot of sense.

    As the bulb 'goes', you do notice a difference in the prints?
    I've noticed for a while that mine have needed more contrast. I had no idea! Then one day I was printing and saw the light 'flicker', which it never did before. I had a weird feeling and thought hey it's going to pop. It did, with the next exposure.

    Thanks for that!
    Yes I noticed about a grade difference and about a stop slower from a just popped one to a new one. But I really noticed it about half way through the bulb's life...at 1.5 hours or so, and it was mostly the time as I could control the contrast with agitation.

    fschifano wrote: "More heat = shorter lamp life. It's that simple."

    Actually the life is shortened by the energy/electricity affecting the wire coil inside the bulb with it going on and off so much and not the heat. The heat inside a bulb stays pretty much the same once it is on.

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    I have a selection of lamps in my darkroom, PH211/75W, PH212/150W, and PH213/250W for use with my D6. I change them as conditions require; for example, if I am making a full frame (8x8) print from a 6x6-cm negative, which has been properly exposed, I find that the PH211 will do just fine. Denser negatives will require correspondingly more exposure, so I will employ the higher wattage bulbs, as required.

    I often use the PH212 bulb wired through a standard lamp dimmer, set for 93 volts; this lowers the lamp output by about a half f/stop, but increases the lamp life considerably. I NEVER use the PH213 bulb unless it is wired through said dimmer. Several years ago, I printed a very dense negative with the PH213, without using the dimmer...the result was one well cooked negative! If memory serves, Omega specified that a cooling fan be used with this particular bulb. I don't own a cooling fan assembly for the D6, but I have had good results with the PH213 at 93 volts, and no more heat damaged negatives.

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