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Thread: Grey prints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Mocak
    Last Saturday I made a BIG mistake: I made some test strips, brought them to the full light, liked them, and made several (ahhh, 6!!) prints(20x30 cm). To my great dissappointment all of them lacked any contrast, looked grey and "muddy". No life, no brilliance.

    Then I printed the same image on Fomaspeed RC normal contrast paper and suddenly the contrast was there and the picture was very lively.

    I am trying to analyze what happened. The "inputs" are:

    Safelight - the same as always (brownish-red)
    Paper - Ilford MG Xpress
    Filter - Ilford, #3
    Developer - Ilford MG, freshly mixed
    Stop-bath - water with a splash of vinegar
    Fixer - Ilford Rapid Fixer, freshly mixed
    Washing - tap water

    Based on the different results from two different brands of paper I might assume that it was the paper. But I can't believe that Ilford would sell such a bad batch and I was so unlucky to get it.

    Is there anything else in the setup which might've caused the problem?

    Thanks for your opinions.
    Kate
    What film are you using?

    I ask because there has been some discussion on the Pure Silver list as to TMAX films and Ilford papers. There are some who feel the two do not work well together. They site:

    http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/...o3/O3wp4.jhtml

    If you are using TMax film perhaps trying them on Kodaks Polymax II RC paper will give you what you expect.

    I have been using (New) Pro TMax Y for some hand held stuff and printing on MG IV, Warmtone etc. and the images are just awful. Next week I am going to try a small batch of Kodak Polymax and see if I think there is a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Bruce (Camclicker)

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    Meant to add:
    Scrool down to
    CURVE SHAPE DESIGNED FOR KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX FILMS

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    Try an orange/red safelight. Best for most b&W papers.
    Digital is best taken with a grain of silver.

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    Bruce,

    it was Kodak T-Max Y!!!

    It never crossed my mind their might be a problem with the combination of a certain film and paper. Thanks a lot!

    Unfortunately, in the meantime I found out that I had the same problem with another photo, which was made (as I've just checked) on HP5+. I assume Ilford film to Ilford paper should not cause problems. I used the same batch of paper as before, though.

    I'm coming to the conclusion that, coincidentally, I had more than one problem:
    1. wrong combination of TMY film with Ilford paper
    2. wrong batch of paper (none of the photos came out right when printed on the paper from this specific box)
    3. my negligence to make larger test strips to avoid so much waste

    Thanks for your advice.
    Best regards, K.

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