how i do this frames in the darkroom

[Linopacino]

hy there, i have a question, im working so long on this and just dont find the right way to get the right result.

I just would like to ask you guys, how i do this frames in the darkroom. like on this picture?

http://blog.jokerbrand.net/files/200...an-Oriol-1.jpg

i just have no idea how i have to do it.. would be awesome if you can tell me.

thank you alot.

Linopacino

[R gould]

Looks like the printer filed the negative carrierer frame down to show the film rebate, only do it if A you want every print to look like that or B you can get hold of a spare negative carrier for your enlarger,
Richard

[Linopacino]

i have a few negative carriers and a i grind it a little bit on the edges and corners, but didnt got that result.

is there another solution to get this frames?

[markbarendt]

The black edge isn't too tough.

Roughly;

You will need paper and easel larger than the whole thing you want. Maybe 11x14 for 8x10.

Make a mask from cardboard to give you the outside edge roughness. Make the mask's outer edges so that the easel's frame will center it.

Make another mask to cover the area where the main print will fall.

Make a print of the edge of 35mm film on single weight paper.

Set up the enlarger and negative for the print.

Put in your paper, lay on the masks and center them.

Lay the edge print in place.

Turn on the lights in the darkroom for a moment.

Pull the mask off of main print area.

Expose with the enlarger.

Develop.

[bblhed]

Shouldn't the holes in the rebate print black, and the rebate strip being free of any image should print black as well. Also to get the black border around the photo you would need to first expose the photo, then cover it with a mask and then expose the border. This photo looks like it was done in photoshop, not with an optical printer.

[markbarendt]

Shouldn't the holes in the rebate print black, and the rebate strip being free of any image should print black as well. Also to get the black border around the photo you would need to first expose the photo, then cover it with a mask and then expose the border. This photo looks like it was done in photoshop, not with an optical printer.

I agree that the example was done in PS.

You are right that the rebate will print black, that's why I suggested printing a single weight paper print of the edge, basically making a paper neg.

[Linopacino]

im really sure that this thing isnt done in photoshop. because i know at this time the photographer only worket with analog film. but i think you guys have much more experience in this.

what is the best way to cut or rip the cardboard for the edge-frame?

okey i hope i got it.. just to repeat the whole process..

1. make a mask for the negativ so that i have a little bit of a black frame there.

2. expose the negativ on the photopaper

3. make another mask for the "outter" frame and put in in the place where the negativ was before.

4. expose that "outter-frame-mask" on the photopaper

5. Develop.

thit i understand it right?
sorry my english isnt so good..

but thank you guys so much! i will try this, this week!

[ann]

filed out negative carrier will create that effect. Also, making a matt negative with rough edges will do something similar. My students do it all the time.

[Linopacino]

thank you for your answere.

what really would help is a photo of the construction.
but i think thats too much of help

[markbarendt]

This is something that you will just need to play with.