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    Successes in Kodachrome K-14 cross processing as B&W

    Hey Guys!

    So I've done my first experiment with processing K64 as B&W

    I haven't scanned them yet, but so far they look "usable".

    I've done a lot of C-41 x-processing already with success.

    I was able to MOSTLY clear the remjet layer but will have to work more on it next time, I had to squeegee more of it off.

    This was taken shortly after it was hanging...



    The base color was not expected, I'll have to figure out if there's a way to clear that, or if I've done something wrong in my process.

    As its dried the base looks darker, I hope that's not a fixer issue, but it's possible by the time it dries that it won't be good anymore.

    I have a few bricks of it coming from a very nice APUGer and figured it was a good day to start experimenting with what I do have left...

    I'll report back after dinner with some scanned images...


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    Looks interesting Stone:

    Have you seen this Sticky thread?: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum40/5...e-b-w-neg.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Looks interesting Stone:

    Have you seen this Sticky thread?: http://www.apug.org/forums/forum40/5...e-b-w-neg.html
    Apparently I did but have forgotten as I posted a bunch in it...

    I did NOT do this bleach extra fix steps ... seems it takes WAY more fixing time than normal films and it's going black... sigh... well at least I am able to scan it before it's completely gone...

    Posting my first results soon but as I said, it's already going black, and it's just my cat and my back yard so I'm not too worried...

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    What I don't understand is this bleaching step that I've just discovered Matt, It seems to just be fixer and citric acid ... will that get rid of this terrible orange color? I noticed that when I took off the clip that under the clip was still a lot lighter ... but I put it in complete darkness to dry to see if it was just not fixed enough and it still was dark.. .examples to come...

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    Have to post from my cell phone...

    How dark the stain of my life...



    Before...



    After...



    Again before under the clip where it was wet...



    And after, dried in complete darkness..



    What's going on here?





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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    What I don't understand is this bleaching step that I've just discovered Matt, It seems to just be fixer and citric acid ... will that get rid of this terrible orange color? I noticed that when I took off the clip that under the clip was still a lot lighter ... but I put it in complete darkness to dry to see if it was just not fixed enough and it still was dark.. .examples to come...
    I'm not the one to ask Stone.

    But I don't think citric acid plus fixer constitutes bleach.

    EDIT: Is this the "Conditioner" step?
    Last edited by MattKing; 07-19-2013 at 11:14 PM. Click to view previous post history.
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    Stone, it does my heart good to see a young fellow fooling with all this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    I'm not the one to ask Stone.

    But I don't think citric acid plus fixer constitutes bleach.

    EDIT: Is this the "Conditioner" step?

    This was referenced in the thread you gave...

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consu...s/pdf/ae31.pdf

    It's about removing the yellow stain layer...

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