Ron, you're doing nonesense again. It's obvious that you don't keep up with the technology or ignoring all the updates since you retired, and making up stories to satisfy your desire of being the smartest guy in online discussion forums. And you're also distorting facts just to stubbornly maintain your contention "valid." But that is hugely misleading people who are trying to learn how to make silver gelatin emulsions.
You are way off about phthalated (or acylated in general) gelatins. Phthalated and trimellitiated gelatins are used in making tabular grain emulsions as disclosed in Japanese unexamined patent applications Heisei 8-82883 and 10-148897. I am sure that KRL people read Japanese patents so they must be aware of this technology but obviously all of these happened after you retired.
I could go on for other issues with specific info and necessary details, but there's really no point in doing this, since you'll come back like "you're wrong," "there are better ways to do this," "Kodak figured all that out decades ago," and so on. Let's cut all that crap. You often go too far to speak highly of Kodak and create unfounded stories to give bad images to its competitors, but your postings are not doing any good to photography or Kodak at all. It's only hurting your credibility.
Your emulsion work doesn't bother me at all. In fact, based on what I heard from someone, I don't even think you've gone as far as you have claimed. But your nonesense bothers me and other people (I get direct emails about this thread and other posts by Ron Mowrey and "Photo Engineer."). I seriously suggest that you don't write about things you really don't know. Also if you don't want to admit and correct your mistakes when ones are found, you shouldn't be writing anything at all. Once written, anything has some chance of having it later found to be wrong.
Ok, this is my last post here.
Originally Posted by Photo Engineer
Ryuji, I don't think that there is any reason for us to argue. You can call me any time you want. I think we should be working together.
I would be delighted to help you with your work and I would be happy to accept your comments on mine.
You know how to reach me.
Really Ron... who in his right mind would want to work with such a pain in the grass as this!
But your politeness is superior to mine. I cannot sit by and let his insults go free.
Ryuji insultingly writes:
I seriously suggest that you don't write about things you really don't know. Also if you don't want to admit and correct your mistakes when ones are found, you shouldn't be writing anything at all. Once written, anything has some chance of having it later found to be wrong.
I see you have changed your stance on use of rapid acting hardeners at the end of a make that you for years worked over with surficants and polymers to get everything perfected...
Goes to show how accurate your statement about having to watch what you say is!
Since you admit to following the patents of very recent dates, you have drawn the attention of everyone whos interested in this. I thought your intention was to make something for the little guy, the guy working on his kitchen table? The guys in the legal department must be salivating, Pavlow! Get this dog drooling out of here!
Ron I commend you and your ability to maintain civility and keep a straight face in the middle of all this.
I belive what we are seeing is an incurable case of "Teacheritus"
Don't waste your time dealing with his insults. They reflect ONLY his personality and NOTHING else.
I make VERY good emulsions myself, but I am wise enough to know that everyone can have good ideas and I am not too proud to learn from anyone.
So far however, Ryuji has had nothing of value to offer, in my opinion (and I HAVE seen some of his emulsions).
You on the otherhand do, and I wholeheartedly encourage you to write!
The content value of your writing far exceeds that of Ryuji's (naturally!) despite the fact that Ryuji SOUNDS more authoritative... We both know it is slight of hand, pure illusion!
Some people talk of not buying KODAK film products anymore out of anger for KODAKs decision to abandon traditional materials, well,
I for one would not support Ryuji NO MATTER HOW GOOD HIS EMULSION BECOMES...
If I could not produce good emulsions myself, I would support your work.
Otherwise, I would learn to draw! Or go dig....
I have to say, having read the entire thread, I believe and stand by Photo Engineer.
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