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    Bromoil - anyone?

    Some time ago I asked if anyone was doing oilprints... it didn't seem to be the case..

    so I'll try this.
    Bromoil? anyone doing it?

    I am just beginning to learn this technique - I use liquid emulsion as a base, and it is SO MUCH FUN!

    anyone?

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    I tried bromoil. Ironically, the best bromoil print I ever did, which actually did look great but was the only decent bromoil I ever made, was a test print; I had soaked my prints for about three days, and well, I never knew that the silver just comes off the print after soaking for so long... So it has a few portions where the silver gelatin came off, but still, it looked quite nice.

    Of all the processes I tried, (palladium, azo, kallitype, satista ,van-dyke, cyanotype, and an extremely short-lived attempt at oilprints- where I never produced a print that would even qualify as "absolutely horrible!") bromoil was my favorite; I'm not sure why, but it might have been in part due to the fact that I didn't have to enlarge negatives and I could keep printing on the same paper I liked to use (Ilford warmtone FB).

    Unfortunately I wasn't ever able to get the hang of bromoil, even after trying other papers, including the ones recommended for it, and I eventually decided that as fun as it was, even with all the lousy prints I made, I would have preferred to devote my time to taking more photos and working in the darkroom, so I gave up on all of the alternative processes.

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    It's certainly on my list of things to try, but so far I've got no further than attending a one day workshop; great fun. Inspiration may be found here:
    Bromoil
    Regards Dave.

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    BTW. Link to Bromoil paper supplier which may be of interest.Retrophotographic
    Good company to deal with.
    Regards Dave.

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    Buying a copy of the late Norman Gryspeerdt's video "Gryspeerdt and the Bromoil Process" should give you a lot of information and an insight into his way of working. I have seen several of his prints and they were excellent.
    Roy Groombridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent8927
    Of all the processes I tried, (palladium, azo, kallitype, satista ,van-dyke, cyanotype, and an extremely short-lived attempt at oilprints- where I never produced a print that would even qualify as "absolutely horrible!") bromoil was my favorite; I'm not sure why, but it might have been in part due to the fact that I didn't have to enlarge negatives and I could keep printing on the same paper I liked to use (Ilford warmtone FB).

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    poor you!..

    you should try with liquid emulsion as base - I thought it was hard to do, but in fact it is coming on far more easy than I thought...

    if you want information on how to - please tell.

    att. my first attempt.
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    Bromoil is on my ever-growing list of things to do...

    But we would welcome a demonstration at the Loen LF gathering
    -- Ole Tjugen, Luddite Elitist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    Bromoil is on my ever-growing list of things to do...

    But we would welcome a demonstration at the Loen LF gathering
    I am afraid I havn't got the money to travel..;(

    could have been fun, though.

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    FRUSTRATION SETS IN:

    I small story - a typical Schildt-story.

    yesterday, I was working hard to try to learn more about different motives and the "easiness" of those..

    So I did 25 different images, with liquid emulsion.
    Two layers, and time to let them dry in between..

    I did different motives. Large Format flowers.. - 12550 iso Diana image - "normal" Diana images..-
    The (in my opinion) difficult one: the fair skinned young beauty..(so difficult to make the image look even and smooth..)
    Dark Paint with light (Munch-like images) and so on..

    the emulsion is fantastic to work with - SO easy. so I ended up with 25 beautiful images late last night..

    being in a roll, I decided that I could bleach them right there and then, as I was not so tired (so I thought)

    I bleached and bleached, and rinsed- re fixed - rinsed and let them dry over night..

    I was so exhited that I almost couldn't fall a sleep - imaging to have 25 images ready for inking..

    so today was the time...

    NOTHING HAPPENED! nothing at all! the ink wouldnt stick, and no motive emerged..


    I fear I have used the bleach too much. worn it down..
    I wish I had a way of determine when the dichromate stops working...<
    I was actually thinking about making new bleach, but the lazynes/tirednes got the better of me....

    the worst part: I can't do it again!!! the emulsion has been used, and FOMA tells me that they don't export it......

    so that's 25 images out the window....

    small ignorant question: is there any way of saving theese? I fear not, but I am an amateur, so IF; please let me know.


    so typical me: new to things, and then I just think it is easy, and "how difficult can it be"...

    tell me that I am not the only one...

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    sorry about your troubles gandolfi -
    i know what it is like to work hard doing something
    and have no fruits from your labors ...

    i have a question regarding bleaching of the "matrix" print ...

    the bleaching solution --- does one have to use:

    acetic acid
    copper sulphate
    potassium bromide
    potassium dichromate

    or can one use something like borax to bleach the image ?

    much thanks!

    -john
    Last edited by jnanian; 08-13-2005 at 02:50 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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