Mixing Palladium Sol. 3

[eggshell]

Hello all,

I am soon planning on mixing my own Palladium Sol. 3. Since it would be an expensive lesson if I mess it up, please help me with these questions:-

1. Where can I get the best price for Palladium Chloride?
2. Since 50ml sol. 3 is a relatively small amount to mix, is there a cause for concern on the accurate measurements of the chemicals & water?
3. Does the Palladium Chloride I buy come in a little brown dropper bottle?
4. Can I use common table salt for sodium chloride?
5. Is the water temperature critical during mixing and does the mixtures dissolve easily?

Once again, thanks for the help.

[clay]

1. Englehard in S.C.
2. Just be careful. I'd be surprised if Englehard will want to sell it in a quantity less than 25-50g, which will make 300-600ml.
3. It is a reddish brown powder with the consistency of corn starch
4. No. Use un-iodized salt.
5. Hot distilled water (120 deg F.) will help it dissolve readily. It usually takes 30-60 minutes for me to get it in solution.

[Jorge]

Clay answered all, for the salt go to the supermarket and buy "canning and pickling" salt, which is just plain salt with no additives. A box will last you a lifetime, I still have the one I bought in the US 5 years ago.

[photomc]

This is good information, have been considering mixing my own as well. The question that I have, is what quantity should you be mixing before it is really a cost reduction vs say B&S? From what I have seen, the 100ml bottle of LiPd is priced about right for the quantity of metal involved. Also, curious how much metal do you guys use in a set period of time (say per year)?

TIA

[Ray Bidegain]

I think Clay has answered this well. My experience is that you need to buy about 250 grams before the price gets to be a big savings. In the past I have been able to write to other printers and get a group together to make a larger buy, with out too much trouble. . I usually mix up 100 grams at a time and it makes around 1100 ml of #3.

Ray Bidegain

[Shinnya]

Hi,

I am just worndering how much it would be per gram if I order 50 g from Englehard? Would it be it less than $10/g?

Also, is anyone out there who would be interested in combining the order from them? I would be interested in doing with some poeple.

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

[Ray Bidegain]

I can not remember exactly but it seems like the last time I bought 250 grams it was around $ 6.50-7.00 per gram. I do not think Englehard will do 50 grams.

Ray

[Shinnya]

Ray,

Thank you very much for your information.

So, all I need is four more people who want to buy 50g of P. C. That would be $350/person or so. Let me know if anyone is interested.

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

[clay]

If there is interest in a group purchase, it might make sense if to poll APug for any interest. The last time I did this two years ago, it was about $6.50/g. I think it has gone up quite a bit lately and is probably closer to $8-9/g. To get any reasonable savings, a purchase group would need to buy about 500g at least, if not a whole 1000g.

I can not remember exactly but it seems like the last time I bought 250 grams it was around $ 6.50-7.00 per gram. I do not think Englehard will do 50 grams.

Ray

[Shinnya]

So, that means 9 more people who want to buy 50g. It will be $400/person or so. I would be still interested in a group purchase. PM me if anyone is interested.

Warmly,
Tsuyoshi

If there is interest in a group purchase, it might make sense if to poll APug for any interest. The last time I did this two years ago, it was about $6.50/g. I think it has gone up quite a bit lately and is probably closer to $8-9/g. To get any reasonable savings, a purchase group would need to buy about 500g at least, if not a whole 1000g.