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    Keeping Properties of silver nitrate in solution

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone knows how long a 10% silver solution (in this case for kallitypes) keeps. It was mixed with distilled water, and has been stored in a 200 ml dark amber bottle in a dark corner of my basement. I would say that it is 2 or three years old. It is perfectly clear and seems to work well. Is there a point at which it should be discarded or will it keep indefinitely?

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    It lasts about forever. As always, give the chems a try. If you have issues, try some newer chems.

    I have found that much of what we buy from the chem dealers has been sitting around for quite some time already.

    I just printed a couple platinum prints last night with the ferric oxalate which is about 18 months old. Worked just fine. Why throw it away unless you can't get it to work?

    Good luck!!
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    Thanks. That was my guess, but I am glad to have it confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Hall
    It lasts about forever. As always, give the chems a try. If you have issues, try some newer chems.

    I have found that much of what we buy from the chem dealers has been sitting around for quite some time already.

    I just printed a couple platinum prints last night with the ferric oxalate which is about 18 months old. Worked just fine. Why throw it away unless you can't get it to work?

    Good luck!!

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    If the solution is clear and has not produced a black precipitate of metallic silver then I should be OK. Avoid exposing the solution to bright light and contact with reducing agents such as organic material.

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    It is common in wetplate collodion to "sun" the silver bath to remove organic impurities (and ether & alcohol) which make their way into the solution during normal use. After filtering this stuff out, the sensitizing baths are again good to go. So, even if your solution gets a bit contaminated I suspect you can extend its life almost indefinitely.

    I've also added a teaspoon of kaolin to a dirty bath, shook it up and let the gunk settle out dragged down by the kaolin, and then after siphoning (with a siphon pump, not by mouth which is dangerous with this chemical) ended up with a perfectly clear usable solution of it again.

    I've also reconstituted silver nitrate crystals that had to be at least 90-100 years old.

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    I've seen several references to the use of kaolin in photography - what's your source? Will the plain, unscented kitty litter do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by juan
    I've seen several references to the use of kaolin in photography - what's your source? Will the plain, unscented kitty litter do?
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    The stuff I use is a very pure, fine powdered kaolin (also referred to as "China Clay" I believe). I acquired mine from a ceramicist. I wouldn't think kitty litter would work for this purpose because of its physical size apart from any chemical impurities.

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    The other place you can buy is at a beauty store where they sell organic cosmetic stuffs.

    I think I bought it on ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan
    I've seen several references to the use of kaolin in photography - what's your source? Will the plain, unscented kitty litter do?
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