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    Platinum prints to glass or not to glass?

    This issue has been bugging me for a while and it really became very evident when viewing an APUG members (Ian Leake) platinum prints a couple of weeks ago at a meet up in our area. When you view such prints in your hands without the glass in front of the print, there is a significant difference. In my opinion they are not only more luminous but have a lot more presence, some of the beauty is lost when glass is put in front of them. What is the point in a printer taking all that time and effort to create a hand made print on matt paper for this to negated by glass.

    There is only one well known person that I know of who has got around this issue, namely Kerno Izu’s Cyanotype over Platinum Prints, where the prints are mounted on aluminium with no glass in front of them. His prints go for around $5000, so I am sure he looked into this issue before he went ahead and framed them this way.

    I was fortunate enough to meet Mike Ware last week and he has various Platinum prints from friends around the world on his walls and they are just mounted in frames with no glass, I believe he occasionally uses a very soft brush if any dust accumulates on the prints. It was great to see such wonderful prints in all their beauty.

    What I would like to know is there any other well known platinum printers that show their prints this way. I am considering displaying my own without glass however I would like to hear more opinions from others more knowledgeable them me about the archival problems that one might encounter displaying them this way.



    (For those interested I found a really interesting document on the ‘Curatorial Care of Photographic Collections’, which does offer some good advice on preservation of prints. http://www.nps.gov/history/museum/pu...pendix%20R.pdf )
    Platinum Printing Editions http://www.dceditions.com
    The Art of Platinum Printing Blog http://artofplatinum.wordpress.com/
    Alternative Photographic Processes blog http://altphotoblog.com/

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    I sometimes do, but how well known I am is debatable.

    The greatest danger is someone trying to clean glass that is not there with Windex!...And people who can't talk without spitting

    Vaughn

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    I put all my pt/pd behind glass, but then I exhibit them in public places where they need the protection. Even in my own home, though, they're under glass, and I haven't really noticed a loss of image quality from it.

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    g'day Dave

    i think you raise issues that go some way to negating the whole rationale for doing alt and FB printing

    if the value of an image is enhanced by it's tactility yet that handling will damage the print, you have to decide several issues;
    to protect with a cover or not
    to use the materials in the first place
    to allow handling/damaging
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    Ray

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    Dave - Glass-less plat/pall prints are the ultimate, but also scary. As you mentioin, standard 'museum', 'conservation', and 'u/v' glass RUIN the nuance and color of such prints, as I discovered thru trial and error until stumbling upon "True View Ultra Clear" glass. No UV protection but who needs it with p/p, and NO GREEN whatsoever – leaving the image as close to perfectly-bare-naked as glass can get.

    If you or a framer can find it, I think you'd like it. Googling, I only came up with a PPG product name of Starfire Ultra Clear, which sounds suspiciously similar.

    Here's an interesting take on the matter:

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...7/ai_107865683

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    I had a one person show two years ago, and I displayed 36 pt/pd and gumover prints with no glass at all. People commented on how they liked it. None were damaged.

    For the prints that sold, I offered them an option in framing to have Den-glass used for the glazing. Everyone who compared regular glass to Den-glass opted to pay the extra $75 for the Denglass.
    I just want to feel nostalgic like I used to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    ... offered them an option in framing to have Den-glass used for the glazing.
    Incredible stuff. IMO best for PT/PD if you gotta have glass.

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    samples in the photographers galllery print sales

    Hi Dave

    next time your in the west end pop into the photographers gallery print sales, I was in last week and they had a mock up using 3 types of glass hanging on the wall with a key behind it, go figure, I suppose it is done by the glass manufacturer, a photo behind it would have been nice.

    have you done any Pt/Pd prints for Stephanie? if so I'd love to see them next time I'm up with her
    enjoy and be well

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    We get down to worth or value I suppose. If you own the print and can easily print another from the neg then surely go with the option you prefer. If it is work you have purchased or been given then that may require a little more thought.

    Looking at prints while handling them is the ultimate for me but then I have other peoples work on my walls behind glass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    I had a one person show two years ago, and I displayed 36 pt/pd and gumover prints with no glass at all. People commented on how they liked it. None were damaged.

    For the prints that sold, I offered them an option in framing to have Den-glass used for the glazing. Everyone who compared regular glass to Den-glass opted to pay the extra $75 for the Denglass.

    Hi Clay

    Thats really interesting, are you going to do the same at your next exhibition? The Den-glass option sounds like a good idea.
    Platinum Printing Editions http://www.dceditions.com
    The Art of Platinum Printing Blog http://artofplatinum.wordpress.com/
    Alternative Photographic Processes blog http://altphotoblog.com/

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