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    Pre-coated albumen paper at B&S

    My father and I are working on producing pre-coated albumen paper. Our preliminary tests are being done on strathmore 400, but we will likely switch to a thinner paper to reproduce the look and feel of vintage albumen prints.

    Our goal is to produce a pre-salted and albumenized paper. which the printer will sensitized with silver nitrate. We feel that this will fill a void in the market place, because many people are familiar with albumen printing, yet most are hesitant to start cracking eggs. Pricing shoud be similar to our carbon tissue, so it will be affordable to students and hobbyists.

    Now my question: Does anyone have any recommendations for a thin paper that comes in rolls? Preferably around 50-70 gsm with a hard surface and neutral pH.

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    The paper with the most traditional look for albumen is Strathmore 500 single-ply plate, but it doesn't come in rolls as far as I know.
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    Dana,
    This is awesome, I'm ready to buy some, when you're ready to offer it.

    As far as paper goes, maybe Monadnock paper has something suitable, http://www.mpm.com/

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    Dana, Are you double coating?

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    Another photographer in my area does Albumen, and the prints are lovely. He did a demo on the process, and I thought it seemed like alot of work. But, if you will be creating the paper, I will try it. I've tried Strathmore 500 with another process, and am impressed with its quality. Good luck with your efforts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana Sullivan View Post
    My father and I are working on producing pre-coated albumen paper. Our preliminary tests are being done on strathmore 400, but we will likely switch to a thinner paper to reproduce the look and feel of vintage albumen prints.

    Our goal is to produce a pre-salted and albumenized paper. which the printer will sensitized with silver nitrate. We feel that this will fill a void in the market place, because many people are familiar with albumen printing, yet most are hesitant to start cracking eggs. Pricing shoud be similar to our carbon tissue, so it will be affordable to students and hobbyists.

    Now my question: Does anyone have any recommendations for a thin paper that comes in rolls? Preferably around 50-70 gsm with a hard surface and neutral pH.

    Thanks,

    Dana
    So are you guys planning to use eggs from free range chickens. Sounds funny but I've heard that is what Zoe Zimmerman prefers.
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    Wow Dana that sounds great!
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    Santa fe is the place to live when you're photographer. Can't help about the paper.
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    Robert, I'm not sure double coating will be feasible for us, but we're going to explore all the possibilities. We can vary the thickness of the coating, though, which may lead to different 'grades' of paper being available.

    Don, We're using commercial-grade dried egg whites as our source for albumen. Sorry to say, but I won't be chasing chickens around the barnyard, catching the eggs before they touch the ground. I'm not sure why Zoe prefers free-range albumen prints, but she's been a Santa Fe resident for many years.... You make you own judgements

    As far as papers go, Ive found several different lightweight archival inkjet papers that look promising. As long as they are chlorine-free and relatively neutral pH, I believe we can make them work. /crosses fingers

    Thanks for the input, fellas!

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    So do you have a mechanical method for coating roll paper with salted albumen? In the photographs of the nineteenth-century factories, one usually sees lines of German ladies in puffy white dresses floating paper in trays.

    Albumen doesn't set up as quickly as gelatin, so I would think the key to such a process would be the drying system, which might produce a better albumen paper than drip drying, since more albumen would be at the surface, rather than absorbed into the paper.
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