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    albumen help

    hi all,

    i am making my fisrt batch of albumen now. it is in the mixer. two diffculties.

    one i could not remove all the strringy bit sfrom the egg whites....problem or no?

    second, my mixer has a stainless steel bowl. the directions say GLASS bowl...did i ruin it? should i transfer it to glass to put it in the fridge? is it okay?

    first of many questions.

    thanks

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    1--Strain it through a couple layers of cheesecloth. You don't want stringy bits in your emulsion. Generally, I strain it every time it goes from one container to another.

    2--I use a stainless bowl. No problem. I've even used a copper bowl without a problem. A copper bowl is traditional for beating egg whites, so I'm sure I'm not the first person to do this.
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    David, a copper bowl is traditional to beat eggwhites because the copper chemically reacts with the egg white and makes it easier to whisk. That might not help with albumen, though I havent tried (although I have a copper bowl for that purpose!).

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    The copper acts as a catalyst, so the egg whites beat stiffer, faster, but no copper remains in the egg whites, so it should be okay for photographic purposes. I like to cook, so I usually beat egg whites that way for culinary purposes. For albumen printing, though, it's a lot of egg whites to beat by hand, so I've been using the KitchenAid. I suppose that if I wanted to get into some major meringue adventure, there is a guy making copper bowls for KitchenAid mixers, but as long as the mixer is doing the work, I can wait--

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    KitchenAid rulz (with stainless steel bowl).

    I sometimes strain through paper towels.
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    great! thanks. so far so good. now i will wait the week and then try this stuff out! i can not wait.

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    From reading Kodak's Conservation of Photographs publication, seems that all Albumen prints will eventually turn yellow and lose density in highlights. If one wishes to display modern Albumen prints, any advise on special needs whether in actual display or during their creation?
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    Gold tone them.

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    In the newer version of Christopher James book, he mentions that letting the albumen mixture age (up to year or more) will decrease the yellowing. Gold toning, he further says, will reduce the fading and yellowing.
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    Albumen was used (along with milk) to make emulsions into the 40s. It was found that albumen from egg whites had a natural tendancy to yellow with age. Little can be done to prevent it, only delay it, but toning surely helps solve the silver image problems. This, among many reasons, was why albumen was eliminated from formulas in the 40s.

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