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    Collodion substitute for plate pouring practice?

    Since it'll be a while before I've assembled all the equipment and chemicals I need for wet-plate I'd like to start practicing my pours. From watching the YouTube videos of Quinn Jacobsen, Will Dunniway and others it looks like collodion is a lot more runny than usual descriptions would have you think. I've tried using corn syrup, but to get that runny it has to be pretty hot and it hurts like a SOB when it runs down my arm! Is there anything else that costs less than the $100/L of collodion that is useful for practicing?

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    fresh cream does the trick.

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    maybe simple syrup?
    you can also probably get flexible collodion at
    your local pharmacy ( i know i can ) maybe you can
    make believe it is the real thing, dilute it with everclear &C
    and pour THAT ... once you get it on your plate and it drys, you can
    draw on it with ink, and take a pin, pry up a corner and peel off the celluloid ...
    it takes pen/ink and its fun to play with ...

    just keep it away from any source of heat
    it's very "sensitive" ...

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    Denise Ross uses artists Gesso diluted with water as a substitute for emulsion in practicing (or demo) of dry plate preparation.

    You can dilute it a bit more to achieve the right consistency....

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    Wait until you get the real thing and practice as you learn. You'll be surprised after watching others do it how easy it is to pick-up. A steady, level hand will do it. You'll get the trick. Spend your time getting the real stuff together.

    If you must, try corn or sunflower oil... a tad thicker, but it is close.

    Have fun!!

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    I recommend 1/2 and 1/2

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    BTW...where can you buy collodion pre-mixed?

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    If you mean pre-salted with all the other goodies but silver nitrate, you can't. It ages too rapidly to be a commercially viable product. You buy the raw USP Collodion from Mavidon ( http://www.mavidon.com ) ( http://www.mavidon.com/catalog/produ...5ed7fa227846f9 )

    And it isn't quite as expensive as you think. Unless you start pouring 8x10 and bigger plates, a little USP goes a LONG way.

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    Thanks...so the collodion from Mavidon has the ether already in it.

    Now what about storage, since the stuff is so flammable?

    I'm looking to take a workshop in wet plate, so my questions will probably be answered there, but I'm trying to do as much research ahead of time as I can...

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    PVia, most of the recipes out there for the different Collodion mixtures actually require you to add a bit more Ether to the Mavidon USP Collodion when you mix up the collodion for pouring.
    I know some people have substituted Everclear for the extra Ether. I think Smieglitz does this. If he doesn't see this thread you might want to shoot him a PM and ask him about it.
    Nigel Tufnel: It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none.
    None more black.

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