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    O.k. I got an 8 oz. bottle of Liquid Light. The straight stuff. Not the VC stuff.

    Anyway, I also picked up two small books of watercolor paper and some small canvas boards covered in gesso to experiment on. I figure these are two good, and small surfaces on which to play with this stuff.

    I have a few questions though....

    The instructions call for NOT using an acid-based stop bath. Instead you should use a short hypo-based fix and then a longer fix. But I have also heard that you can just use a water bath. Any comments on that?

    Also, why TWO fixes? I mean if using a fix as a stop-bath, why not just dump it in fixer and let it ride? Or am I missing something here?

    And any sage advice on using this stuff would be great. First time for me and all...
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    Hey, what's the poop with applying Liquid Light? Does it hafta be done only under safelight? That seems to make sense but there are some materials that vary in light sensitivity between wet and dry stages.
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    According to the instructions you need a safelight. The AG variant can't even be applied under safelight due to the speed.
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    hi there

    i used to make glass positives using liquid light ... fun stuff!
    i never used any stop bath, and used a water bath instead.
    2 fixer baths is to make sure the emulsion is completely fixed. if you leave it in one fix bath, it will become more exhausted faster, and the image won't be 'stabalized" ( from what i remember) ... i think michael smith has some info on 2 fixer baths in the "writings" seciton of his website).

    i never used it too much on paper or canvas, but you probably need some sort of a binding agant ( subbing agent ) to keep the emulsion from being absorbed too much into you medium.

    from what i remember there was a number for rockland colloid on the instruction manual. the folks there are very eager to help people use their "stuff".
    they might have the info you need here: http://www.rockaloid.com/ ( on their website : ) )

    good luck!

    -john

    ps. if you add a little bit of developer to your liquid emulsion it will make it a little more contrasty, and increase the asa a little bit too.
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    O.k. So the fixer will become exhausted by using it just once? Or will it simply use up normal fixer faster?
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    Thanks for the info. I've read the label on the bottles of Liquid Light at the stores but don't recall seeing anything about whether it must be applied under safelight.

    I have a pretty good stock of watercolor paper going unused since I don't paint much these days.
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    hi again

    it won't become exhausted by using it once, but it will exhaust faster than if you are using stop bath before the first bath ... the second fixer bath allows the fixer to permiate the paper more and totally fix the image. you might want to talk to bob<?> at rockland colloid to ask specifics regarding their product. while i have used it quite a bit, i don't really know more than my own experience ( experiments ) tell me.

    if you can find a copy of "liquid silver emulsion" snatch it up! it has great information about using liquid light &al., making your own emulsons, troubleshooting &c &c ...
    unfortunately, it is out of print

    good luck!
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    hi again

    it won't become exhausted by using it once, but it will exhaust faster than if you are using stop bath before the first bath ... the second fixer bath allows the fixer to permiate the paper more and totally fix the image. you might want to talk to bob<?> at rockland colloid to ask specifics regarding their product. while i have used it quite a bit, i don't really know more than my own experience ( experiments ) tell me.

    if you can find a copy of "liquid silver emulsion" snatch it up! it has great information about using liquid light &al., making your own emulsons, troubleshooting &c &c ...
    unfortunately, it is out of print

    good luck!
    -john
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