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    Start with Bromo-oil

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    I want to start taking pictures in bromooil process...
    Can i use a bleach from Sepia Toner Foma ? or must do it myself ?
    Paper... i want use a foma baryt ( karton).
    Somebody can help me with this ?
    To made prints I use Tetenal Eukobrom developer and Tetenal Superfix Plus Fixer.
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    I think that very few papers are still good for the bromoil process, but I know that Gene Laughter, a bromoil artist extraordinare, has promoted Kentmere Fineprint VC Warmtone.

    The question about bleach and whether the Foma baryta paper is suitable, somebody else will have to answer.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadowskiPL View Post
    Hello...
    I want to start taking pictures in bromooil process...
    Can i use a bleach from Sepia Toner Foma ? or must do it myself ?
    Paper... i want use a foma baryt ( karton).
    Somebody can help me with this ?
    To made prints I use Tetenal Eukobrom developer and Tetenal Superfix Plus Fixer.
    nono...
    that won't do!
    you have to use a special bromoil bleach, and be sure to use fix without hardener, when you make your first print!
    Superfix is a nono!
    (but TETENAL makes a fix called "Variofix" (which is a powder), and it works well for me.

    Gene IS the man to talk to here, as I have never had success in using "normal" papers for bromoil.

    I use Liquid emulsion, and here the bleach is slightly different than the one Gene uses.

    look here for inspiration and so on.. http://home.earthlink.net/~trans40/hopperlist/

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    Ok...
    That formula will be ok ?
    a) 750 ml water
    b) 10 ml 28% acetic acid
    c) 30g copper sulphate
    d) 30g potassium bromide
    e) 2g potassium dichromate
    f) water to 1000ml until shadows remain as a pale green trace
    I can do fixer...
    I live in Poland... we have Ilford, Foma, Tetenal and Foton Papers ( Bydgoskie zakłady Fotograficzne)

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    ok...
    Next ...
    This oil paint will be good for gumoil technic ?
    701 Ivory Black Talens Amsterdam ? 200ml
    In Poland this cost about 16PLN that is 5,8$ ( 2,75PLN / 1$)
    Or to bromoil and another technics i can use a Litographic ink Charbonell Black Velvet 200ml 45,2PLN (16,43$) ??
    The Fabriano Tela papers (300g) can be good for gum and gumoil technic ?
    To gumoil I must use a transparent positive or negative ?

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    Ilford MG matte paper is somewhat "bromoil friendly" and a number of bromoilists are using it. My favorite paper for bromoil is Kentmere Fineprint Neutral tone, not Warmtone (it won't work!) semi-matte finish. Good luck!

    Gene

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    Foma Variant IV velvet VC FB is an excellent paper for bromoil.

    Gene

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadowskiPL View Post
    ...The Fabriano Tela papers (300g) can be good for gum and gumoil technic? To gumoil I must use a transparent positive or negative ?
    Sadowski,

    Fabriano Tela disintegrates in water, therefore isn't suitable for both gum and gumoil processes.

    For gumoil you have to use a positive (for gum a negative). Practice with gum first, when you get a hold then try gumoil... The best starter paper for gum is Fabriano Artistico BTW.

    Hope this helps,
    Loris.

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    Hello,
    Can i use for gum bichromate process this paints ?
    http://www.sklepplastyczny.pl/akwarele-van-gogh-381_90/
    or http://www.szal-art.pl/farby-wodne/a...bkach-8-ml.htm
    or Earth Pigments ?
    And paper:
    http://www.szal-art.pl/papier-bloki-...5cm-12-ark.htm
    http://www.szal-art.pl/papier-bloki-...y-300-gram.htm <- this is with 15% of cotton

    Can you help me ? I don't have access to papers like Fabriano Artistico etc..

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    Hmmm...
    next problem, the UV light source.
    Can I use a Fluorescent lamps like this ?

    or halogene , the UV lamps is not for my wallet...
    And please... Reply..

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