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    pl/pd pain in the wallet!

    I just ordered the essentials for some first time platinum and palladium printing from bostick and sullivan last night and knew it was going to be expensive, but perhaps wasn't prepared to pay £433 or around $600! I want to do some for the end of year degree show. The contact printing frame makes up around a quarter of this. I was wondering whether I could get one second hand easily enough or whether there was a way of avoiding getting one and using something else. would 2 sheets of glass simply do? Are there any corners I could cut to save some money? Obviously I need the chemistry but I mean in regards to the peripheral stuff.

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    I just ordered the essentials for some first time platinum and palladium printing from bostick and sullivan last night and knew it was going to be expensive, but perhaps wasn't prepared to pay £433 or around $600! I want to do some for the end of year degree show. The contact printing frame makes up around a quarter of this. I was wondering whether I could get one second hand easily enough or whether there was a way of avoiding getting one and using something else. would 2 sheets of glass simply do? Are there any corners I could cut to save some money? Obviously I need the chemistry but I mean in regards to the peripheral stuff.
    Very dedicated. I trust that you will be the sole exhibitor of pt/pd prints?

    Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarvman View Post
    I just ordered the essentials for some first time platinum and palladium printing from bostick and sullivan last night and knew it was going to be expensive, but perhaps wasn't prepared to pay £433 or around $600! I want to do some for the end of year degree show. The contact printing frame makes up around a quarter of this. I was wondering whether I could get one second hand easily enough or whether there was a way of avoiding getting one and using something else. would 2 sheets of glass simply do? Are there any corners I could cut to save some money? Obviously I need the chemistry but I mean in regards to the peripheral stuff.
    For prints upto 10x8inchs a simple clip frame will do you fine, any larger you might consider purchasing a Vacuum frame. You can sometimes find these secondhand on ebay under 'UV exposure unit' or 'UV platemaker' and usually reasonably priced. In relation to your B&S order you will still have a customs fee to pay which includes import tax duty ( i think its around 17%) and customs handling charge (around £20), so also bare that in mind. You might want to value the items under the tax threshold, although they will only be insured for that value. Good luck.
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    I used a single piece of glass and some foam underneath for almost a decade before I purchased a vacuum frame. I set the UV light unit on top of the glass to hold the negative tight against the paper.

    On my web site I show the process I go through to make a pt/pd print. That might help you some.

    From the home page click on the digital negative link.
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    There are lots of second hand contact frames out there. All of mine are second hand, and none cost half of what you paid, not that it isn't nice to have a new contact frame. My favorite is a Kodak pin registered frame designed for dye transfer. Old Century frames are pretty good too.

    Avoid the newer Premier frames--they're kind of light in construction. Also, avoid the frames that have clips that go around the perimeter of the frame, rather than a leaf spring hinged in the center of the frame--they don't apply enough pressure in the center of the frame.
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    I've been making argyrotypes in preparation for pt/pd work (just to get the hang of the techniques and process), and was able to find a hand-made Pelland 8x10 frame for under $100. Now, that is way more than you can find an old frame for but it's craftsmanship is unequalled. I don't think Dan is making these anymore but there are plans on his website.

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    I got a nice one from Photographers Formulary. Check them out.

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    Ole suggested a clipframe with the backing cut in half, then you can remove half of the backing like a splitback frame. I've not tried this, though. What size are you contact printing? Smaller frames come up on ebay often, although usually in the medium format size rather than 4x5 size.
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    There are LOTS of old contact printing frames, in varying condition, listed on Ebay. Oftentimes you can get them for very little money as they get written up as "picture frames" instead. You may also be able to find someone local who is all but, or even in actual fact, giving them away. If you do go ahead with buying the Bostick & Sullivan frame, it is without doubt worth it. I have had mine for several years now and I use it constantly. Whatever route you choose, pick a frame at least one size bigger than the largest you plan to print, so you will have room to work, and you'll have room to grow, should you decide to go up in format.

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    Yeah Tom, there won't even be a grain of silver in the place, just wall to wall inkjets. They're gonna be 10x8's on 11x14" paper Heather. PVia, that sounds a sensible idea. I Don't know if I'm really ready for it just yet but what the hell. The Kodak pin registered sounds like it could be good, I'll keep an eye out.

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