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04-21-2009, 07:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon
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| 60 Minutes segment last weekend "Cold Fusion"
I was watching this segment on Cold Fusion and the scientist who is working on this mentions the main component is Palladium. They use the purest Palladium somewhere in Europe to create the reaction. I then went to the website and they use both,Platinum/Palladium for the process.
OH-oh! Can this mean prices for the metals will go up some more? I wonder if I could use my prints to make a cold fusion reaction?  http://superwavefusion.com/the-process
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04-21-2009, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern California & Maryland
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| This broadcast was quite a big bore. For all their talk, they had no documentation, no repeatability, no theoretical basis, ...
Aside from the fact that what they claim violates the laws of thermodynamics! [Perhaps they can get Congress to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics in the spare time they have available for solving the Worldwide Bush Depression.]
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04-21-2009, 09:23 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NH - Live Free or Die
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| Steve, actually since it is not a chemical reaction cold fusion doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics. It would fall with other nuclear energy processes and follow the E=MC^2 relationship. Fusing two deuterium results in a helium with less mass than the deuterium. The lost mass is converted to heat energy.
This is not to say I think they have it working, though I will withhold judgement as it is potentially possible. | |
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04-21-2009, 09:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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| Cold fusion per Pons and Fleischman is going nowhere. It is a standard joke at any physics conference that I attend; why the chemists decided to give it more press this year is beyond me. I wish them lots of luck with that.
The real cold fusion is muon catalyzed and is quite well known in the physics community. | 
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04-21-2009, 10:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Humboldt County, CA
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| Will I be able to hook wires to my box of reject platinum/palladium prints and provide power for my house? It would be nice to get some return for the $ tied up in those prints!
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04-21-2009, 10:44 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kansas, USA
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| It was a farce the first time and its a farce this time. Just another scam to get research money and tenure. | |
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04-21-2009, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Hawley  It was a farce the first time and its a farce this time. Just another scam to get research money and tenure. | I don't know. I don't think it was an intentional scam the first time, just sloppy research. The current guys I am not sure I trust though. | |
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04-21-2009, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tacoma, WA
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Originally Posted by Sirius Glass This broadcast was quite a big bore. For all their talk, they had no documentation, no repeatability, no theoretical basis, ...
Aside from the fact that what they claim violates the laws of thermodynamics! [Perhaps they can get Congress to rewrite the laws of thermodynamics in the spare time they have available for solving the Worldwide Bush Depression.]
Steve | Thank you Steve. Those were my thoughts exactly... down to the last detail (Including the stuff inside the square brackets :-) ). | |
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04-22-2009, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Originally Posted by Vaughn Will I be able to hook wires to my box of reject platinum/palladium prints and provide power for my house? It would be nice to get some return for the $ tied up in those prints!
Vaughn | Can I get an amen, brother?
That and a Prius would just about do it for me... | |
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04-22-2009, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Utah, USA
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| Title made me think it was a show about an old ex-girlfriend. | |
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