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    Nice to see that some more people enjoyed looking at it. After reading up a bit on the process (mainly the things Emil Mayer wrote) I find it interesting that the delicate brush handling he describes is not as delicate and paper towels are used in the clip, which seemed to be a no-no according to him.
    “Do your work, then step back. The only path to serenity.” - Lao Tzu

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    In the days of Emil Mayer emulsions were far more fragile than today. I have always used super coated papers for bromoil and Joy was a student of mine. One of my bromoil teachings: "Let the paper know who's the boss!" lol.

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    Gene, thanks for the info. I think I've even got 2 100 packs of fineprint VC in 5x7 that I can use to practice on. And I think it'll be a while before I get around to using color. Thanks again!

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    Well, I just finished inking 4 bromoils. These were the first 4 I've ever done, and I think the first one was the easiest. I can tell right off the bat that I'm going to need to get some brushes that don't shed like crazy. I pretty much ruined the second one trying to get a very stubborn hair off of it, and the last two have tiny hairs that I was afraid to try and remove before the ink dries. But I'll say one thing; I have never felt the amazement I did when I leaned back and looked at the first one when I finished. It truly is a beautiful process, and oh so much fun to do! Gene, if I can pick your brain for one more thing, what type of brushes do you use, and how much hair loss is acceptable?

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    New brushes shed far more than they do after some use. Most will shed some. I normally wait a day to clean off the hairs. Then they'll usually float off if the bromoil is placed in water. If not, they're easy to coax off with a water color brush. I mainly use 1" round boars hair basting brushes from Williams-Sonoma. Many prefer to trim these to a stag foot shape. I use 'em untrimmed, as they come from the store. Not sure that Williams-Sonoma still carries these brushes as they are not on their web site. My local Williams-Sonoma still has these, however. They sell for about $10.00. My friend, Maija McDougal, Pres. of the Bromoil Circle of Great Britain, prefers inexpensive shaving brushes which she trims with scissors. Home Depot has a Ralph Lauren faux finishing brush. It's stag foot and about $12.00. It's fine for bromoil. My manual, Bromoil 101, devotes several pages to brushes. Don't mean to spam. Got it?

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    Gene, thanks so much for all the tips and info. Where can I find a copy of your book? Amazon has it as out of print, but I'd dearly love to pick it up. Thanks again! I can already tell that I'm going to absolutely love bromoil.

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    Paul, why don't you show us some of your work? And as always, Gene, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

    By the way, do a google search for Joy Goldkinds bromoils. Great stuff indeed.

    EDIT: Just saw your bromoil in the gallery. Sweet...
    Last edited by Jerevan; 06-24-2009 at 04:12 AM. Click to view previous post history.
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    BTW, Joy's use of hard brayers is not the method that I use. Essentially my bromoils are produced with brushes only. Occasionly I will use a soft foam decorator's brayer to even out the inking. Bromoil is a different strokes for different folks process. Anything that works goes!

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    Interesting video!

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