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    Stupid question about tri-color

    Alrighty. Say I shoot three 4x5 negatives. One through a Green, Red, and Blue filter. I then take these images, contact print them onto halftone film. I take the corresponding contact prints/slides and then dye them red, green, and blue, with respective to the filter used. I take these three dyed clear positives, overlay them perfectly, and... Will it make a color positive?
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    It should. I've done this digitally and it worked pretty well.

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    You'll want cyan, magenta, and yellow dye. If curious, look up the dye transfer process, it should answer your questions.

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    Yes. It works. In fact there is a pseudo Kodachrome process in which you can use couplers to get positive dye images and by laminating the 3 images you have, in effect, a real Kodachrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Yes. It works. In fact there is a pseudo Kodachrome process in which you can use couplers to get positive dye images and by laminating the 3 images you have, in effect, a real Kodachrome.

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    I'm probably going to get in way over my head, but in laymans terms, how would one make the dye copulers, and how would they function?
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    The process uses 3 color developers with 3 color couplers. These chemicals are outlined in a number of books, patents and also were sold by Kodak for those doing the Kodachrome process. I have posted generic structures here before, but if you want me to, I can look them up again.

    There is a C, M and Y coupler set and the cyan is normally a 4 chloro phenol, the magenta is normally a pyrazolone and the yellow is an aceto-acetate.

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    Are there people that regularly create their own Kodachromes, or is it more of an idea?

    And where did you post it? In a topic, or as an article?
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    The idea is well known and was the basis for making single color test coatings of Kodachrome. It was published in a textbook on color photography in the 40s by Leadly and Stegmeyer. It was the basis for early color processes and is used to demonstrate Kodachrome.

    I did not originate this. I am aware, quite aware of it having been done by many since the days of Mannes and Godowsky. They refined it to make a tripack coated as one film and that is their contribution.

    Early examples were exposed in a 3 color camera, and developed to yield a positive 3 color image.

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    http://www.rockaloid.com/products.html#selecta

    I've tried this to limited success. I've been told I need to raise the pH of a C41 developer to get good results on film.

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    In the printing industry, the halftone screens are rotated differently so the dots don't overlay each other.

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