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Thread: F#@%ing Fakes

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    Nice thread !!

    I've got some fake ambrotypes here:
    http://193.166.40.90/?p=1490

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    I gave a talk at local photo club a couple of years ago about cyanotypes. Some joker in the club emailed me his "digital cyanotypes" the next day, and another member has produced "platinum" prints with fake brush strokes. They don't even get how insulting it is to those of us who put in the time and effort to learn these processes. It like chain restaurants claiming to serve "homemade" soup or bread.

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    Although I agree in principle with Thomas -- "A good picture is a good picture regardless of how it was printed." -- Jeffrey is absolutely right about 'full disclosure' and Vaughn has hit on a real problem for us: name overlap. I make my own silver gelatin emulsion. Try explaining that to people! I either get something like, 'my dad did that, too.' (meaning, of course, commercial paper in a darkroom) or they think I mean a Liquid Light-type product.

    I think most of us resist boring people to tears talking about our process, and galleries think that tasteful minimalism requires...?? no detailed process info? We should be respectful, certainly, but I think it's ok to fight back a little against what I've come to see as pretty much old-fashioned dishonesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Vedos View Post
    Nice thread !!

    I've got some fake ambrotypes here:
    http://193.166.40.90/?p=1490

    - Jalo
    Hi Jalo! I didn't know you were an APUG'er.

    Everyone else, I had the delight to see Jalo's work at APIS in Santa Fe last summer. Absolutely stunning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwross View Post
    Hi Jalo! I didn't know you were an APUG'er.

    Everyone else, I had the delight to see Jalo's work at APIS in Santa Fe last summer. Absolutely stunning!
    Hi Denise! Thanks for your kind words...
    Mainly lurking here ...

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    One one hand, it's infuriating to see (mostly) awful imitations of beautiful processes, but it also shows that people value the aesthetic of the processes--which is good. Sometimes in life, the imitations lead a path to the real thing.

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    A friend of mine is enrolled at a "school of photography". They DO actually get their hands wet in the darkroom for a few days. Ater that, there are workshops in using Photoshop etc., to emulate silver-gelatin, cyano etc., etc., He thinks I'm a bit nutso to be using film, making carbon-transfers, gum-dichromates etc., but every time I show him a print he says "wow, you actually made that?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexavalent View Post
    A friend of mine is enrolled at a "school of photography". They DO actually get their hands wet in the darkroom for a few days. Ater that, there are workshops in using Photoshop etc., to emulate silver-gelatin, cyano etc., etc., He thinks I'm a bit nutso to be using film, making carbon-transfers, gum-dichromates etc., but every time I show him a print he says "wow, you actually made that?"
    That may mean, your really worked hard to do what can be done in PS or it can mean, that is way better than the PS work. Which do you think?
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    bigger fakes to fry if you ask me

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    I will only take you seriously if you mail me your rant on parchment, written with quill and ink and delivered by pony express. Darn internets.. Faking letter writing..

    That said, everything is a fake of something else. Some fakes are great enough that they become originals on their own. I do agree with you regarding faking processed in Photoshop. If you want a Cyanotype, make one.

    My big pet peeve nowadays is 'professionals' taking portraits with a phone camera and saying it's as good as a dSLR. Give me a break!

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