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    Might I suggest as an alternative, creating photograms using a timed electric light-source, followed by "developing-out" your image.

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    These are my latest attempts using the same Oriental Seagull VC paper from the first two attempts. This time tho, I left them out for about 4 hours and fixed for 45min. Dann, I think that you are correct, I do need to use an electric source as the winter sun might not be producing enough UV light.
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    Much better. I don't understand the long fixing time though. I fix the same as for any print and have had no problems. Two minutes for RC papers works for me.
    Unless you have a cloudless day, lumen prints will probably take quite a while, but two to four hours is about right in my experience.
    If you use artificial light, you will need UV lights to get the same effect - sort of like making cyanotypes, salt prints, etc.
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    As for the long fix time. I was using not quite exhausted fixer and I wanted to see if they would get darker with a longer fix time. The last one is the first one to get fixed the other two received a water bath before fixing to see if that affected the end result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitstik View Post
    . . . . Dann, I think that you are correct, I do need to use an electric source as the winter sun might not be producing enough UV light.
    Oooops, I probably over-simplified my original reply. I wanted to suggest "developing" as an alternative because you can reduce your exposure times down to just a few seconds per print. The last print I made in this fashion had an exposure time of only 22.5 seconds, and that was also including a #3 polycontrast filter over the light-source. I then developed the paper normally to bring out the latent image. Granted, making prints with the sun will have a different look entirely, but I rarely get the chance to see the sun. So, I have spent more time fooling around with photograms using electric lighting as the light-source.

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    great work you have posted !
    i have to mix some gold toner to use before
    my hypo to see if my in camera lumen prints will remain on the paper
    you are lucky your images still exist .. when i fix mine they vanish

    john

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