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    How to screw up a Lumen print.

    Due to the Holiday's, I have had some time off and I decided to experiment with some old paper I had lying around with no immediate plans for. I had been reading about Lumen prints, not really my thing but I decided to give it a try. I must say tho, that I had some fun with stuff just laying around the house and the sun as my UV source. The first to prints I did turned out fairly well if not very light in tone and value. I really wanted to get a darker image than what I go from the first so I let the second expose for a longer period of time but it didn't darken up much over the first. The third is where it gets really interesting. I exposed that one for about 45min and then I found out why you don't develop these prints. I mixed up a batch of Caffenol and developed it for about ten minutes and then washed it with water and fixed it for 5min. There is an image on the paper but it is extremely dark, as in black.
    I am going to have to try this again tomorrow when I have more sun light but I will forgo the developing process.
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    Don't develop them. Let them darken in the sun a little darker than you want the final print, then put them straight into the fix. The image will bleach a little, but retain most of the tone and color.
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    Depending on paper just fixing will result in muddy, usually ugly colors. Toning before fixing will result in better colors. Paper and exposure times will also affect colors produced.

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    I was just playing around and wanted to see what would happen if I developed it, well, I found out. I had not gotten to the point of toning as this is just an experiment on what NOT to do. I need to get a UV lamp for when I start to do contact printing, so it can be used for both of these processes.
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    I've never tried toning them, so put some up here to show us what they look like!
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    As Greg said, you don't 'develop' Lumen' prints. I leave mine from two to four hours, until they look dark enough. Then I fix. Fixing tends to lighten them, so be sure they're quite dark. You have to experiment as different papers, time of year, etc. make a difference. I don't put mine directly in the sun. I put them in north shade where they get good UV.
    I've not had much luck with toning, but that don't mean you shouldn't try it. I also find old papers seem to work better. Last Summer I bought two boxes of Unicolor Gallerie from about 1970 from an old camera shop. It's very interesting! Check my web site for my results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Davis View Post
    I've never tried toning them, so put some up here to show us what they look like!


    Forte Polywarmtone toned with Gold Chloride/Thiourea


    I tested some with Kentmere Warmtone VC and depending on toner you can get a delicate blue out of it.

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    Willrea, just how do you tone the print and how long do you expose to UV? This is my first time doing this and I like the effect that I got today but my times where less than an hour.
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    I'd have to look at my notes, but for the Gold/Thiourea toner I tone for a few minutes, put it in a water bath for a minute and then fix.

    My exposures in direct sunlight are in the range of 2-4 hours.

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    This is what I have so far.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails scan0001.jpg   scan0002.jpg  
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