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    DIY Oil/Bromoil Ink - Pigment + ______?

    Let's say, just hypothetically of course, that some one wants to make their own oily ink for inking up a swelled gelatin matrix.

    Assuming you have an appropriate pigment, what kind of oil could you mix with it?

    Mineral oil?
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    Mozollla

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    Linseed oil I think
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    DYI Ink for Bromoil

    I have made a bit of ink for bromoil. Mineral oil would be far too thin. I have used litho varnish with a tiny bit of Canada balsam mixed in for tack. But why bother to make it? Litho inks are available and can be stiffened to work for bromoil.

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    I knew I would receive the "why bother" question.

    Basically, I can't afford to buy some new thing for every errant impulse I get (and I get a lot), and yet I've got some matrices lying around that I'd like to try inking up.

    I'm trying to get a feel for what kind of viscosity we're talking about, and if I can walk into a grocery store or a Hobby-Lobby/Michaels and buy something, I'd prefer to do that.



    Not sure what mozolla is (though I'm guessing it's somehow related to mozilla, and a suggestion that I should look online before asking)
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    Mozolla Oil and a girlfriend and you will figure it out.
    much more fun than matrixes

    Quote Originally Posted by holmburgers View Post
    I knew I would receive the "why bother" question.

    Basically, I can't afford to buy some new thing for every errant impulse I get (and I get a lot), and yet I've got some matrices lying around that I'd like to try inking up.

    I'm trying to get a feel for what kind of viscosity we're talking about, and if I can walk into a grocery store or a Hobby-Lobby/Michaels and buy something, I'd prefer to do that.



    Not sure what mozolla is (though I'm guessing it's somehow related to mozilla, and a suggestion that I should look online before asking)

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    Should you decide to give it a try, you'll find that it's a whale of a lot cheaper to buy a pound of litho ink than it is to put the ingredients together. Graphic Chemical and Ink Co. is your best source for litho varnish. Get the thickest they have in stock. The last time I checked it was available in 32 oz. cans. Canada Balsam "ain't" cheap and you won't find it at your neighborhood Hobby Lobby or supermarket! Good luck!

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    Ahh... do you mean Mazola oil Bob? You cheeky monkey!

    Gene, you're probably absolutely right... but let's pretend for a moment that I'm stuck on a desert island, with a huge stash of matrices, pigment and everything else necessary to make oil prints except a dedicated lithographer's ink.. oh and a huge variety of different oils...

    I mean, I have to prepare for such a situation!
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    You already have a supply of matrices - bleached and tanned with the proper chemistry. Right? How were they exposed in the enlarger compared to normal and on what photo paper?

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    Well, they're more in line with "oil" matrices. It's plain gelatin coated on a clear support, then potassium-dichromate sensitized , exposed under a negative and etched, leaving a relief.

    Actually, they are for dye-imbibition, but I thought it would be cool to dye up my rejects.

    Bromoil sounds so much more involved than oil, I'm surprised more carbon printers don't experiment with this technique.
    From the film shooters will rise a well developed practice of the alternative processes that, in time, will be adopted in the age of the digital image to free it from the extreme boringness of pressing print.

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